[Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals

Sun Sep 8 23:10:24 UTC 2013

Here is the document containing the Maryland braille math standards.
If you are successful I would like a copy.  I just have not had time
to work with it yet.  California and Utah also have braille standards.

On 9/8/13, Karen Palau <kapa3960 at verizon.net> wrote:
> How can we get a copy of the Maryland Common Core standards?  I'll take them
>
> in any format even though I am a Jaws user.  Perhaps I can scan them and
> pass them along to others on this list.  Please let me know how I can access
>
> these standards.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marianne Denning
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:12 PM
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals
>
> Greg, Maryland has developed braille standards for their state
> standards.  I don't know if they use common core or not but I can
> email you the document if that might help.  I don't live in Maryland
> but I looked at it.  I am blind and had difficulty with the document
> because it is not accessible to JAWS.  If there are people from
> Maryland on this list please put in additional information.
>
> On 9/8/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Marianne and all,
>> Thanks for your thoughts.  Counting up the nemeth symbols she will need is
>>
>> a
>> good idea.  Her baseline will be fairly high because of the way they are
>> teaching math now using common core, but this does allow me to measure
>> her
>> progress toward an annual goal.  She has been introduced to most of the
>> major Nemeth symbols that you need before algebra already.
>>
>> I had a 4th grader last year and I found that most of our instructional
>> time
>> was spent exploring spatial layouts for the different common core
>> strategies
>> and understanding concepts like writing out the multiple steps to solve a
>> problem and show your work.    These items take up such a substantial
>> part
>> of my instruction that it seems appropriate to keep track of it with an
>> objective if possible.  Does anyone have any thoughts on how I might do
>> this?
>>
>> As to not writing a Nemeth goal at all: Even though she currently has no
>> deficits in Nemeth, she will require Nemeth instruction as new concepts
>> and
>> symbols arise.  It is my understanding that if I am going to give a
>> student
>> service time, best practice would be to have that time attached to a goal
>>
>> or
>> objective.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.
>>
>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>> Cobb County School District
>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Could you identify the new nemeth symbols she will learn and indicate
>>> she will read and braille these symbols with a percentage of accuracy
>>> on a number of tries?  I am not sure I would even write a nemeth goal
>>> for her since it does not appear to be an issue.  Nemeth is her method
>>> of completing math just like all of the math symbols are how sighted
>>> children complete math and we don't write goals for sighted children
>>> unless they are having specific problems.  Just my personal thoughts.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello colleagues,
>>>> I'm looking for input on how others write IEP goals for nemeth in
>>>> elementary
>>>> grades, or even for older students.  What I currently do is write a
>>>> generic
>>>> goal to improve Nemeth skills and then write specific objectives
>>>> defining
>>>> what I will measure etc.  I choose these objectives by selecting a
>>>> handful
>>>> of math skills covered in that grade.  For example, 1st grade common
>>>> core
>>>> standards include writing from 1-100 and so I would write a Nemeth
>>>> objective
>>>> for the same.  However, I generally only select topics that will be
>>>> Nemeth
>>>> code intensive, such as working problems in vertical format.  Because I
>>>> am
>>>> not a math specialist though, this feels arbitrary to me and
>>>> inevitably,
>>>> some of my objectives are only addressed during one quarter of the
>>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> The above method works for many of my students who have demonstrated
>>>> deficits and needs in particular parts of Nemeth instruction.  However,
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> am
>>>> working on an IEP for a student who has excelled with every
>>>> Nemeth/abacus/math related concept I have introduced in braille.  My
>>>> only
>>>> specific goal for her this next year is to master the Nemeth concepts
>>>> necessary to complete the 4th grade math curriculum, but I'm having a
>>>> hard
>>>> time putting that in a measurable form.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice or input would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>>> Cobb County School District
>>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>> (513) 607-6053
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053
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