[Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals

Mon Sep 9 13:13:08 UTC 2013

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> From: Karen Palau <kapa3960 at verizon.net>
>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division at nfbnet.org> 
>Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals
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>Hi:
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>I tried that link, but my screen reader indicates that the page cannot be 
>found.  Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can get this info about 
>the Common Core standards used in Maryland?
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Karen
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>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Marianne Denning
>Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:20 PM
>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals
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>Here is the link where I found the information.
>www.pathstoliteracy.org/common-core-standards-and-students-visual-im...
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>On 9/8/13, Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com> wrote:
>> Here is the document containing the Maryland braille math standards.
>> If you are successful I would like a copy.  I just have not had time
>> to work with it yet.  California and Utah also have braille standards.
>>
>> On 9/8/13, Karen Palau <kapa3960 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> How can we get a copy of the Maryland Common Core standards?  I'll take
>>> them
>>>
>>> in any format even though I am a Jaws user.  Perhaps I can scan them and
>>> pass them along to others on this list.  Please let me know how I can
>>> access
>>>
>>> these standards.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Karen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marianne Denning
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:12 PM
>>> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals
>>>
>>> Greg, Maryland has developed braille standards for their state
>>> standards.  I don't know if they use common core or not but I can
>>> email you the document if that might help.  I don't live in Maryland
>>> but I looked at it.  I am blind and had difficulty with the document
>>> because it is not accessible to JAWS.  If there are people from
>>> Maryland on this list please put in additional information.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Marianne and all,
>>>> Thanks for your thoughts.  Counting up the nemeth symbols she will need
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> good idea.  Her baseline will be fairly high because of the way they are
>>>> teaching math now using common core, but this does allow me to measure
>>>> her
>>>> progress toward an annual goal.  She has been introduced to most of the
>>>> major Nemeth symbols that you need before algebra already.
>>>>
>>>> I had a 4th grader last year and I found that most of our instructional
>>>> time
>>>> was spent exploring spatial layouts for the different common core
>>>> strategies
>>>> and understanding concepts like writing out the multiple steps to solve
>>>> a
>>>> problem and show your work.    These items take up such a substantial
>>>> part
>>>> of my instruction that it seems appropriate to keep track of it with an
>>>> objective if possible.  Does anyone have any thoughts on how I might do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> As to not writing a Nemeth goal at all: Even though she currently has no
>>>> deficits in Nemeth, she will require Nemeth instruction as new concepts
>>>> and
>>>> symbols arise.  It is my understanding that if I am going to give a
>>>> student
>>>> service time, best practice would be to have that time attached to a
>>>> goal
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>> objective.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>>> Cobb County School District
>>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could you identify the new nemeth symbols she will learn and indicate
>>>>> she will read and braille these symbols with a percentage of accuracy
>>>>> on a number of tries?  I am not sure I would even write a nemeth goal
>>>>> for her since it does not appear to be an issue.  Nemeth is her method
>>>>> of completing math just like all of the math symbols are how sighted
>>>>> children complete math and we don't write goals for sighted children
>>>>> unless they are having specific problems.  Just my personal thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/8/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello colleagues,
>>>>>> I'm looking for input on how others write IEP goals for nemeth in
>>>>>> elementary
>>>>>> grades, or even for older students.  What I currently do is write a
>>>>>> generic
>>>>>> goal to improve Nemeth skills and then write specific objectives
>>>>>> defining
>>>>>> what I will measure etc.  I choose these objectives by selecting a
>>>>>> handful
>>>>>> of math skills covered in that grade.  For example, 1st grade common
>>>>>> core
>>>>>> standards include writing from 1-100 and so I would write a Nemeth
>>>>>> objective
>>>>>> for the same.  However, I generally only select topics that will be
>>>>>> Nemeth
>>>>>> code intensive, such as working problems in vertical format.  Because
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> not a math specialist though, this feels arbitrary to me and
>>>>>> inevitably,
>>>>>> some of my objectives are only addressed during one quarter of the
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above method works for many of my students who have demonstrated
>>>>>> deficits and needs in particular parts of Nemeth instruction.
>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> working on an IEP for a student who has excelled with every
>>>>>> Nemeth/abacus/math related concept I have introduced in braille.  My
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> specific goal for her this next year is to master the Nemeth concepts
>>>>>> necessary to complete the 4th grade math curriculum, but I'm having a
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> time putting that in a measurable form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any advice or input would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>>>>> Cobb County School District
>>>>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>> (513) 607-6053
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>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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