[Quietcars] Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act

Mon Dec 20 03:03:27 UTC 2010

Dear Chuck,

I beg to differ here, but in this case, an audible back up beeper would have 
warned the 2 year old, the question is would he have had the understanding 
to know what it meant and what to do about it.  A sudden loud sound will get 
the attention of most anyone standing nearby, but I do think that you are 
right that it might not have made any difference to what happened to him in 
the end.
As I said in my message, when cars become more "self aware" and can sense 
the space around them, the car itself will be able to prevent such accidents 
because the car would be aware and thereby take proper actions by not 
backing up and maybe even set off it's horn and an audible announcement that 
a child or object is in the way and thus alert the Driver/passenger to the 
presents of the child.  It might even make enough noise to get people from 
the house to come out to take the child aside.
We really don't know what might happen as this is a view into the future.
I can only say that at least having an audible back up beeper might have 
fritened the child out of the way before his father backed over him.  This 
is something we frankly will never know.
David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act

> in the case in point would the audible signal have warned the 2-year-old 
> child? probably not!
> chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Discussion of new quiet cars and pedestrian safety" 
> <quietcars at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act
>
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I do believe that cameras are a good idea, but I think that an audible 
>> warning sound should also be mandatory as well and is a less costly and 
>> easier fix that can be applied to all vehicles even now.  It only 
>> requires and electronic beeper, some wire and a contact switch that makes 
>> contact when ever the shift lever is placed in reverse.  It could even 
>> just be placed in the same electrical circuit with the back-up lights.
>> In the last 2 years, I personally have had 3 incidents where "quiet cars" 
>> have nearly backed over me and one did strike me to the point that I had 
>> to drop my white cane and jump upon the rear of the car to keep from 
>> being run down.  My cane was sticking out in front of the car by the time 
>> the driver stopped the car from my beating on the back window.
>>
>> The cameras will warn the driver, if they are watching and paying 
>> attention, but an audible warning beeper, will take care of the other 
>> side of the coin and warn people like me that a car is moving.
>> I think that the problem will not be solved as best as it can be until we 
>> address both sides of the coin.
>> There will, I am afraid, still be accidents as drivers will still be 
>> careless, as well as pedestrians will be careless or distracted or unable 
>> to react in time.
>> I also think that along with an audible beeper sound device that the rear 
>> lights should also "flash" on and off with the beeper to warn those who 
>> are deaf or hard of hearing and also warn approaching other drivers that 
>> the vehicle is backing up.
>> If we do all of this, I believe that we will have done all we can 
>> reasonablely do to fix the situation until cars become more autonomist 
>> and take over more of the driving functions and have "self awareness" of 
>> the environment around them.
>> I know as a engineer and futurist that this will happen in the not too 
>> distant future.
>>  Then things will be safer for all of us.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> Nuclear/Aerospace Materials Engineer
>> Builder of the Lunar Rovers and the F-117 Stealth Fighter.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "michael townsend" <mrtownsend at optonline.net>
>> To: "'Discussion of new quiet cars and pedestrian safety'" 
>> <quietcars at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety 
>> Act
>>
>>
>>> Once again another excellent post; not necessarily aimed at our 
>>> audience,
>>> but a more universal one, and we could all benefit greatly.  Thanks, 
>>> Bob.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: quietcars-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:quietcars-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Robert Wilson
>>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:27 AM
>>> To: quietcars at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Quietcars] Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act
>>>
>>>
>>> A week before the June 23, 2008 hearing, I first learned about the 
>>> back-over
>>> problem. Today, I came across the welcome result:
>>> http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/li-boy-s-death-may-mean-cameras-in
>>> -all-cars-1.2527253
>>> * * * quoting from the article * * *
>>> Greg Gulbransen thought at first that maybe he'd backed over the 
>>> newspaper.
>>> The pediatrician had gone out at night to flip his BMW SUV around so 
>>> that he
>>> wouldn't have to back out of his driveway in the morning when kids were
>>> headed to school. As he continued in reverse, his headlights lit up a 
>>> scene
>>> that would change his life forever.
>>> Gulbransen's son Cameron, 2, lay sprawled in the driveway. He had on 
>>> blue
>>> pajamas, was holding a blanket and was bleeding heavily from his head.. 
>>> . .
>>> "That's when life ended pretty much as I knew it," Gulbransen said
>>> Wednesday. "Complete and utter devastation. I still can't believe it
>>> happened."
>>> Now, eight years after the October night in Woodbury when Gulbransen
>>> accidentally killed his son, the federal government is taking comment on 
>>> a
>>> key provision of the Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act
>>> that's meant to prevent such tragedies.
>>> After the 60-day comment period, announced Friday by the National 
>>> Highway
>>> Traffic Safety Administration, automakers will be required to eliminate
>>> blind zones behind vehicles that can contribute to deaths like 
>>> Cameron's. In
>>> practice, that means automakers will have to outfit new vehicles with
>>> monitors that display to those driving in reverse a live image of the 
>>> blind
>>> zone. Such rearview cameras are already found in some luxury models.. . 
>>> .Ten
>>> percent of new vehicles must meet the requirement by September 2012 and 
>>> 100
>>> percent by September 2014. The federal government estimates that the 
>>> move
>>> will cost the auto industry as much as $2.7 billion and individual car
>>> purchasers an extra $159 to $203 per vehicle.
>>> Federal safety regulators estimate that in an average year, 292 people 
>>> are
>>> killed and 18,000 injuries occur due to back-over crashes. Some 228 of 
>>> those
>>> fatalities involve common passenger vehicles, regulators estimate, with 
>>> 44
>>> percent of those deaths being children under 5 and 33 percent adults 
>>> over
>>> 70.
>>> * * * end quote * * *
>>> This safety legislation received near universal support because it 
>>> applies
>>> an effective solution to a well documented and too often fatal problem. 
>>> It
>>> is timely because rear view mirrors are losing their effectiveness as
>>> tougher roll-over safety rules require stronger roofs that further 
>>> obscure
>>> visibility. SUVs and pickup trucks are a particular hazard because their
>>> higher than normal body style and lengths lead to especially poor
>>> visibility. But no car or vehicle is immune.
>>> Universal backup cameras make a lot of sense which due to economies of 
>>> scale
>>> will become much more affordable. This is the application of new, video
>>> technology to replace the century old, and barely adequate mirrors.
>>> Bob Wilson
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