[Quietcars] Quietcars Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2

Fri Mar 19 01:04:44 UTC 2010

Mr. Wilson posted a piece on the California gentleman whose Prius
experienced so-called runaway acceleration of unintended aceleration.  This
Prius had been modified per Toyota's policy to fix a braking issue.  

The gentleman had a few screws loose, and Toyota in its investigation, along
with the Federal Government, had found no reason for his car's having
accelerated as it did.  

My reason for posting this is that, if a Prius had experienced unintended
acceleration, and one of your NFB constituents had been injured, you'd be
all up and down this post, cheering me on.  What this has to do with the
postings to this list is a conversation that I was having with a list
member.  If you so choose not to read it, delete it.  

Now, if you have further, address me off list, and I'll be happy to speak to
you about it.  

It's amazing how narrowly focused some people are.  This is a list where I
have chosen to participate to learn from and to offer feedback and if the
moderators have a problem, that's their issue, not yours, pal.  

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What does this posting have to do with this list?

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   1. Re: Recent 'run away' Prius incident (michael townsend)
   2. Re: Recent 'run away' Prius incident (Dewey Bradley)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:49:02 -0400
From: michael townsend <mrtownsend at optonline.net>
To: 'Discussion of new quiet cars and pedestrian safety'
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Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Recent 'run away' Prius incident
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Robert, I apologize for not having written sooner, but I've been
hospitalized with pneumonia but I'm recovering at home now.  

This Prius owner has had a multitude of things that haven't worked out for
him, including hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, twenty grand owed
on the car, and he's filed for bankruptcy a couple of times.  

Results have been inconclusive as to why his car went out of control, if it
ever did, and nothing has been able to have been replicated regarding this.
If you want my honest opinion, Toyota is a scapegoat for  incidents with
fords, Chryslers, etc., and not much has been said about it.  

If you want to be on the bandwagon, the popular thing is to bash whichever
car manufacturer is down at the moment.  Take every incident with a grain of
salt and skepticism.  Like the Audi incidents of the late 1980s, this too
shall passs and the minimal incidnets which are truly honorable will be
settled.  It's a shame that Toyota's reputation is tarnished by unscrupulous
drivers/owners.  

-----Original Message-----
From: quietcars-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:quietcars-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Wilson
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:09 PM
To: quietcars at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Quietcars] Recent 'run away' Prius incident

Hi,

There was a recent "Prius Run Away" incident West of San Diego on an
interstate highway. For those interested, the 911 call is available:

http://priuschat.com/news/runaway-prius-911-call-released-listen-here

The car is at the dealership being analyzed by NHTSA and Toyota technical
staff. Given the likely, exhaustive forensics (probably including carpet,
accelerator and brake microscopic analysis,) a final report may take a week
or more.

Many of the Prius community remain somewhat skeptical.
The driver was on the phone for 20 minutes and refused to follow the correct
procedure the 911 operator gave him (shift the car into "N" or turn it off.)
It took a police officer in a car running at high-speed in parallel using
the loudspeaker to get the driver to follow the instructions of the 911
operator. After the stop, the officer noted the floor mat and accelerator
were in the normal positions. The driver seems to be wearing a "Corvette
Club" jacket, strange coincidence.? Of course these may be perfectly
innocent coincidences but we also remember "balloon boy" and a couple who
crashed a Presidential state reception.

Bob Wilson

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:55:06 -0500
From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
To: "Discussion of new quiet cars and pedestrian safety"
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Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Recent 'run away' Prius incident
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People do that with all companies.
Remember the woman that put a finger in her windy's chilly?
They try that stuff all the time
Like the one that put hot coffee between her legs while driveing, coffee is
ment to be hot.

----- Original Message -----
From: "michael townsend" <mrtownsend at optonline.net>
To: "'Discussion of new quiet cars and pedestrian safety'" 
<quietcars at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Recent 'run away' Prius incident

Robert, I apologize for not having written sooner, but I've been
hospitalized with pneumonia but I'm recovering at home now.

This Prius owner has had a multitude of things that haven't worked out for
him, including hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, twenty grand owed
on the car, and he's filed for bankruptcy a couple of times.

Results have been inconclusive as to why his car went out of control, if it
ever did, and nothing has been able to have been replicated regarding this.
If you want my honest opinion, Toyota is a scapegoat for  incidents with
fords, Chryslers, etc., and not much has been said about it.

If you want to be on the bandwagon, the popular thing is to bash whichever
car manufacturer is down at the moment.  Take every incident with a grain of
salt and skepticism.  Like the Audi incidents of the late 1980s, this too
shall passs and the minimal incidnets which are truly honorable will be
settled.  It's a shame that Toyota's reputation is tarnished by unscrupulous
drivers/owners.

-----Original Message-----
From: quietcars-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:quietcars-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Wilson
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:09 PM
To: quietcars at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Quietcars] Recent 'run away' Prius incident

Hi,

There was a recent "Prius Run Away" incident West of San Diego on an
interstate highway. For those interested, the 911 call is available:

http://priuschat.com/news/runaway-prius-911-call-released-listen-here

The car is at the dealership being analyzed by NHTSA and Toyota technical
staff. Given the likely, exhaustive forensics (probably including carpet,
accelerator and brake microscopic analysis,) a final report may take a week
or more.

Many of the Prius community remain somewhat skeptical.
The driver was on the phone for 20 minutes and refused to follow the correct
procedure the 911 operator gave him (shift the car into "N" or turn it off.)
It took a police officer in a car running at high-speed in parallel using
the loudspeaker to get the driver to follow the instructions of the 911
operator. After the stop, the officer noted the floor mat and accelerator
were in the normal positions. The driver seems to be wearing a "Corvette
Club" jacket, strange coincidence. Of course these may be perfectly
innocent coincidences but we also remember "balloon boy" and a couple who
crashed a Presidential state reception.

Bob Wilson

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