[rehab] question for the list

Wed Aug 7 23:00:05 UTC 2013

I like that tactic.   

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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Coffman
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Thank you Dick. I have done that with changing all of the keys on the
keyboard. Take them off, throw them in a bowl, and put them on wherever they
land. It works well and teaches good typing skills. If you can't do fully
emergent, it is very helpful

Nancy Coffman
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On Aug 6, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Dick Davis <ddavis at blindinc.org> wrote:

> Our communications instructors switch all the keys on our student 
> keyboards.  It drives the peekers crazy and makes them want to shut 
> their eyes.  If they do it visually, they end up with complete garbage.
Try it!
> Dick
> 
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> From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin 
> williams
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> Check the Louisiana training center  for the blind; they may have some 
> studies.  Half immersion tactics such as training with the computer 
> screen off, and the mouse unplugged are good.  Also, taping a cloth or 
> something to cover the keyboard in place so that they can slide their  
> hands under, but are not able to look att the keyboard.
> If you don't have time for getting rid of the nervousness of 
> blindfolds and the complete inability to see, short cuts are 
> necessary.  Accept in mobility.  If you don't train with blindfolds, 
> you won't train the student right, and that could cause them injury.
> 
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> From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lansaw,Jane
> (DARS)
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> Amen to walking the walk.  When I was in Nebraska immersion was 3 
> months flat for everyone.  Still, I'd like to find some data.  When I 
> was majoring in English Education, we did a lot of reading and 
> writing.  Much of it in the  Ed department was children's lit and teen 
> lit because we were aiming for certification in 9-12.  Looked like 
> immersion to me.  I need to sell it though and need more data than, 
> the cool kids are doing it.  You and I both know why it's a good idea 
> but umbrella agencies are often lead by people outside blindness 
> and/or education.  I'll keep digging and watching the lists in case 
> someone comes up with a publication I can wave around.
> 
> Yours on the barricades,
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
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> From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dick Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:12 PM
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> 
> Jane,
> I don't know of anyone who collects such data; maybe Dr. Bell?  At 
> BLIND, Inc., we require new hires to go through three months of 
> training.  I am sure the same is the case in Louisiana and Colorado.  
> New Mexico requires either two or three months. Nebraska is either three
or six months, I
> forget.  Iowa has training too.   I am sure BISM has a similar
> requirement.  Hawaii does for sure.  It seems like those centers that 
> have such a requirement also do the best work.  That is kind of a no 
> brainer, because staff immersion training provides a knowledge base, 
> an attitude base, and a confidence base, all of which a person needs 
> to work effectively with blind people.  As far as I can tell, 
> blindness rehabilitation is the only field that questions such 
> fundamental career preparation, and it shows in the kind of services 
> (or lack thereof) that blind people get.  If you can't walk the walk, 
> you won't be able to talk the talk, at least not convincingly.
> Dick Davis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> (DARS)
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> Hi folks,
> 
> I'm looking for some data because I'm curious.  I know a lot of 
> training centers immerse staff in non-visual training for a time when 
> they are newly hired.  I know why I think this is a good idea but I'd 
> like to hear from others.  Why is this a good idea?  Is there any data 
> out there to support the fact?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jane Lansaw
> 
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