[rehab] [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
Justin Williams
justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 25 18:46:32 UTC 2017
That's a really nice document.
Justin
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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dick Davis via rehab
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:18 PM
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Cc: Dick Davis <ddavis at blindinc.org>; pallen at louisianacenter.org; Employment-Committee at nfbnet.org; allstaff at blindinc.org; jdeden at cocenter.org
Subject: Re: [rehab] [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
Amanda,
You might print this out and hand it out to people who accost you . It is on the BLIND, Inc. website.
Dick Davis
*What To Do When You Meet A Blind Person Like Me
<https://www.blindinc.org/about-blindness/what-to-do-when-you-meet-a-blind-person-like-me/>*
*by: Blind, Inc. students and staff*
Hi, I’m blind. I may also use the terms visually impaired or legally blind to describe myself. But whatever one I use, they all mean the same thing: I either see nothing at all or my eyesight is so poor that I have difficulty doing things visually. Many of the ideas people have about blindness are inaccurate or completely false. If you’ve never met a blind person before or know very little about blindness, you’re likely to believe some of those ideas, so here’s some accurate information to get you on the right track.
When you read the following, please keep in mind that it may not apply the same way to all blind people. Each one of us is an individual and as such, we each have had different training and experiences, so there’s no one size fits all. If you’re in doubt it’s always best to ask.
1. Always remember that I’m the one who’s responsible for my life;
nobody else is. Some sighted people think it’s their job to supervise a
blind person, and try to take charge of me. I’m perfectly capable of making
my own decisions although I may ask for information or assistance from time
to time.
2. The fact that I may be with a sighted person doesn’t mean he or she
is in charge or is there to translate for me. It’s irritating when people
try to talk to me through a sighted companion. I speak English just fine,
so if there’s something you want to know, please ask me. And you don’t have
to speak louder; it’s my eyes, not my ears that don’t work.
3. For me, blindness is a fact of life and I hope you’ll come to accept
it too. There’s no need for you to worry about finding me a cure; I have
competent doctors who’ll tell me if they hear of something that might help.
It’s okay to pass on any new information you hear about. My religious
beliefs are my own and it makes me uncomfortable when complete strangers
want to pray for me to get my sight back.
4. Independent travel is something that many blind people learn so when
you see me walking down the street with my cane or guide dog, assume that I
know where I’m going. If I wait at a corner before crossing, it’s because
I’m listening to the traffic so I can tell when to cross. It’s safest if I
cross when the light turns green because that gives me the most time to get
across. If you don’t know how long the light has been green, please don’t
insist that I go.
5. If you see me standing at a crosswalk when you’re driving, don’t stop
for me if the light is against me. I may assume that it is safe to cross
and walk right into the path of a moving car. When I’m crossing in front of
you at an intersection, don’t blow your horn if you think my cane is about
to touch your front bumper; it will scare the heck out of me. Since I
cannot see you, using your horn is a poor way to signal me.
6. If I seem to need help, introduce yourself to me and ask me if I need
it. If I don’t, I’ll say No thanks! and go on my way. Don’t feel hurt if I
reject your offer of help and insist that I accept it. I appreciated your
offer. Just say something like Okay, have a nice day! and go on your way.
Don’t follow me to make sure I get where I’m going as it will feel like I’m
being stalked.
7. If you’re giving me directions, it doesn’t help to point because I
can’t see where you’re pointing. It’s better to offer me verbal directions,
ones that are as specific as possible. If you know the names of cross
streets and landmarks, that’s always helpful information; if you don’t, I
may ask you to read the street signs to me. You’re welcome to ask me for
directions; I get around a lot and might have the information you need.
8. I might want to walk with you using the sighted guide technique,
especially if we’re carrying on a conversation or are in a tight space such
as between tables at a restaurant. Or perhaps I’d prefer to walk beside
you, determining my position by the sound of your voice; it’s always best
to ask. If I use the sighted guide technique, I’ll probably hold onto your
elbow and walk about a half step behind you so I can anticipate steps and
curbs. Never try to push me ahead of you, since I’ll have no way to tell
what’s coming next.
9. I may use my cane or guide dog along with the sighted guide technique
just to cover my other side and give me additional information. If I’m
using a guide dog, always walk on the side of me opposite the dog. Never
grab my cane and try to drag me along. I may jerk it out of your hand by
reflex, giving you cuts or splinters. And never grab my guide dog; it’s
trained to respond only to me.
10. If I’m having dinner at your home, you don’t need to do everything
by yourself. I’m always glad to help out; it feels strange to sit there
while others are doing all the work. And if you’re having dinner at my
home, remember that as the host, I’ll let you know if I need help with
anything. It’s always okay to ask. If you look at or use any of my things,
please put them back where you got them so I don’t have to look for them
after you leave.
11. You don’t have to redefine the English language just because I’m
around. I use words like look and see too, and using them won’t hurt my
feelings one bit. When I greet you, I’ll say, It’s good to see you! and
when you have something I’m interested in, I’ll say, Let me look at it!
Looking at an object has always involved touch as well as sight.
12. If you’re accompanying me into an unfamiliar room, I may ask you
about its layout. That way we can split up and do whatever we each want to
do. If the room is crowded, I might ask for your help finding people or I
may just want to circulate on my own. Never grab me and try to push me into
a chair or move me to a different place; blind people hate being manhandled
all the time.
13. If you come up to me while I’m in a group, always say Hi!” and call
me by name so I know you’re talking to me. If you are leaving, say goodbye;
it’s just common courtesy. Never play “Can you guess who this is?” since I
may not know you by your voice, and that would be embarrassing for both of
us. I meet a lot of people and can’t remember everyone.
14. When I’m getting into your car, I won’t need help opening and
closing the door or putting on the seatbelt. I ride in a lot of cars and
know where things are. If you see something remarkable while you’re driving
it’s okay to mention it, but there’s no need to give me a running
commentary. Even though I don’t drive, I get around and may be able to
offer you directions if you need them.
15. If you’re riding in the front seat of a bus, you don’t have to jump
up and run to the back of the bus when I get on or insist that I sit in
your seat, although it’s okay to ask if I need it. Blind people aren’t
required by law to sit in the front of the bus; the only time you may need
to give me your seat is if I ask you to do so. I may want to sit in the
back of the bus since it’s easier for me to leave by the back door than it
is to try to fight my way through the people coming on, or I may dislike
sitting sideways. I appreciate knowing if there’s a vacant seat next to
you.
16. Under the law, blind people can go wherever members of the public
are invited to go. That means I have the right to go to ballgames,
restaurants and amusement parks, ride in planes and trains, and stay in
hotels. I won’t need a handicapped accessible room or other adaptations. I
like to have fun like everyone else, although some of the methods I use may
be a little different. When I go to a ballgame I like to tune in to a radio
station so I can hear the play by play. In a museum I like to have things
described to me and know if there are things I can touch. I have absolutely
no desire to climb out of a moving roller coaster or other ride, so you
don’t have to worry about my safety.
17. If I’m eating in your restaurant, please show me to my table. I may
want to take your arm or just walk behind you, but if I do that, please
keep talking. I may need the server to read the menu to me if there isn’t a
Braille one. Just review the sections and when I ask, tell me the menu
items in that section. If I’m interested in something, I’ll ask you to read
the listing to me, including the price. When you bring my food, you don’t
have to tell me where each food item is; I can figure that out by myself.
When you bring me the check, I’ll need you to read it to me and if I pay by
credit card or charge it to my room, I’ll tell you what tip to add and have
you show me where to sign.
18. I need to keep my cash organized so I know which bills are which.
When you give me change, tell me the denomination of each bill and its
position such as, The $10 is on top and the $5 is underneath it. If you do
that, I can figure out which are the $1 bills. Don’t get impatient if I
take a couple of seconds to put my money in order or fold the bills into
shapes I can recognize later. I can identify coins by touch: they’re all
different sizes, and the dimes and quarters have ridged edges.
19. If you’re interviewing me for a job, treat me like any other job
applicant. I’ll want to know about the essential functions of the job and
how they’re usually performed. I say usually because I may need to use
non-visual techniques, including computer speech or Braille, or I may use
the same methods as everyone else. If you want to know how I’d do
something, just ask; I’d rather answer a lot of questions than have you
write me off because of my blindness.
20. If I go to work for you, treat me like your other employees. Show me
what I need to do, teach me what I need to know, and expect the same level
of performance from me as you do from everyone else. If you’re handing out
challenging assignments, make sure I get my fair share. If I need to use
speech, Braille, or other forms of technology, please make sure I have
complete access to your systems so I can do a competent job. Remember that
I want to do a good job for you, so if I make mistakes, tell me what they
are and what I need to do to correct them. And don’t assume that because I
do well at my job, I want to stay in it forever. I’m willing to take some
risks and want to be considered for advancement just like everyone else.
In summary, always keep in mind that you and I are alike in more ways than we are different. I’m a normal human being who just lacks the sense of sight, and I have the same kinds of interests as everyone else. Take the time to get to know me, and you’ll understand.
*(Updated 06/22/2016)*
*From:* Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On Behalf Of *Amanda Lacy via Jobs
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:52 PM
*To:* Jobs for the Blind
*Cc:* Amanda Lacy
*Subject:* Re: [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
Downtown SF is very loud and chaotic. I'm impressed that you deal with it daily. I couldn't without at least occasionally freaking out and an overall decrease in functioning.
On Oct 24, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Karen Rose via Jobs <jobs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
As a person. Totally blind, I have absolutely no idea what I am doing to look so helpless as to be asked five times a day in downtown San Francisco where I work with or someone can help me. I would love to know so I could do something else. LOL Karen
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Lester Cameron via Jobs <jobs at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
yes I do agree with you
hey can we start a questions that sighted people ask
my first one is this
Can I help you across the street and you say no thank you
and tell them I am waiting for a friend but I would like to help you across street and the more you say no the more that there insist
so I say yes
I get to the other side and I ask them to take me bavk over and I tell them that is two good deeds for the day and that makes them happy
Just one thing to add I tell people that would like to help me
I say yes but don’t ask me what can I do for you
I tell them justask me how can I assist you because I can do it my selfe
*From:* Steve and Pam Atkinson via Jobs <jobs at nfbnet.org>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:10 PM
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*Cc:* Steve and Pam Atkinson <sm.atkinson at comcast.net>
*Subject:* Re: [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
I agree 100%! I do not have poor eyesight. I am not visual Impaired and need special glasses to help me see a little better. I am blind. I am not sort of blind and I do not have poor eyesight. I am just the regular old standard flat out blind and I enjoy to over-come the many challenges I face each day. I don’t like being blind. But, I don’t complain about it day in and out. My days of complaining about being blind are over since the days of people saying, “Poor you for being blind.” only made things worse. I get really upset with myself when I make a mistake and miss a step or accidentally run off a curb or when my Guide Dog makes an accidental mistake and we need to re-work our little mis-hap. But, I usually go to bed in a good mood and wake up in a good mood and give everything I have to make the new day a good day. But, I am definitely blind and I am not embarrassed of being blind. I don’t look for compliments, but for some reason people give them to me and tell me how good I am at being blind. I enjoy a good laugh when I hear a good blind joke with my sighted and blind friends just like a normal person does. This is because I am normal and blind and I will keep on doing my very best to be the best I can at being the nice blind guy with a really cool Guide Dog for the rest of my life.
Steve Atkinson
*From:* Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org>] *On Behalf Of *Samuel Negron via Jobs
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:32 AM
*To:* Jobs for the Blind
*Cc:* Samuel Negron
*Subject:* Re: [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
In order for people to listen to what you have to say, you have to listen first. I will refer to someone the way they refer to themselves, and, if the way they talk about themselves is in a negative way, I'll explore with them why they feel that way. The journey and ability to refer to oneself as blind and to do so in a comfortable, uninhibited way is different for everyone. No one likes being judged or told what to do or how to think.
Sam Negron
Phone: 773-746-0005
On Oct 24, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Albert Rizzi via Jobs <jobs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Blind works for me that is for sure, throw in legally if need be, but blind works just fine on my end.
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From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) via Jobs
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:07 AM
To: Jobs for the Blind <jobs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
Subject: Re: [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
Interesting. There is, however, a much shorter, succinct and direct adjective which describes most of us, and does, in fact, have a legal definition in the U.S. Visually impaired, vision impaired, hard of seeing, unsighted, unsightly (yes I've seen that one on documents) and partially sighted do not. Let's use blind. If you can still see some, you can discuss the degree of your blindness with those who are interested.
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From: Jobs [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Richards via Jobs
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:44 AM
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Cc: Jeremy Richards <jeremy.richards7 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Jobs] the term Vision impaired
Hi all,
I hear an immense amount of individuals refer themselves to as "visually impaired."
If we want other groups of individuals including the sighted world to properly address us, shouldn't we learn how to properly address ourselves?
Our appearance is not in itself impaired, so we of course are not "visually impaired."
Our vision is impaired, therefore we are a population of those whom their vision is impaired.
Those who use the term visually impaired, in the English language, are stating that our appearance is impaired--as if our faces are blurry, or we have three arms.
I know that in the grand scheme of things it's not terribly significant, but how about we show ourselves a bit more respect and refer to ourselves in a grammatically correct manner: vision impaired.
Just saying. :)
JR
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