[rehab] rehab counseling job requirements
Shadrick, Ian
Ian.Shadrick at dss.mo.gov
Fri Sep 22 12:44:10 UTC 2017
Under the WIA the requirements for becoming a Rehabilitation Counselor changed to require the specific education with limited exceptions or related degree, however under the WIOA revision of the Rehab Act, this requirement was lessened, which now allows states to determine their minimum requirements. The federal regulations no longer require the rehabilitation degree. Some states do in fact require this given the previous requirements, but the qualification requirements will vary from state to state given recent changes. I would recommend checking with the specific state you are interested in to determine their expectations.
Ian Shadrick ABD, M.A., M.A., CVRT, CRC
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1. Job ads requirements (adrijana prokopenko)
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4. Re: Job ads requirements (adrijana prokopenko)
5. Re: Job ads requirements (Bonnie Mosen)
6. Fwd: CFPB Tips for Student Loan Borrowers with Disabilities
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:26:20 +0200
From: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
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Hi all,
I am not in the rehab counseling field, but there are some things that I have heard and come across that puzzle me greatly, so I hope that someone can help me understand this puzzle better. Most of the time, when it comes to job ads, most of them require someone to have the degree necessary for the kind of work they do, but I also keep hearing from other people who work as rehab counselors or are hired to do so that it happens more and more that this requirement is not needed. I personally know of a few people in the US that work as rehab counselors with a high school diploma or holding other degrees, mostly in the computer field. I have never read a job ad that states they would be flexible about who they employ, but hope someone can help me understand this a bit better.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:41:26 +0000
From: "Andrews, David B (DEED)" <david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>
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I am not a Rehab Counselor -- but work for a state rehab agency. I could be wrong here -- please anyone correct me -- but in the Federal/State rehab system, Counselors are required to have Masters degrees in rehabilitation or related fields. I think we sometimes hire people who are close, but have a bit remaining to complete, but they have to do it in a certain amount of time. Other entities hire rehab counselors, and may have other requirements. We also hire "rehab technicians" some of whom just have high school degrees. They are more involved with coordination, paperwork, orientation, etc., not actual counseling.
Dave
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Subject: [rehab] Job ads requirements
Hi all,
I am not in the rehab counseling field, but there are some things that I have heard and come across that puzzle me greatly, so I hope that someone can help me understand this puzzle better. Most of the time, when it comes to job ads, most of them require someone to have the degree necessary for the kind of work they do, but I also keep hearing from other people who work as rehab counselors or are hired to do so that it happens more and more that this requirement is not needed. I personally know of a few people in the US that work as rehab counselors with a high school diploma or holding other degrees, mostly in the computer field. I have never read a job ad that states they would be flexible about who they employ, but hope someone can help me understand this a bit better.
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:41:11 -0400
From: "Angel238" <angel238 at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [rehab] Job ads requirements
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This post amuses me. 50 years ago, rehabilitation councilors, working for
my state, didn't even have to have a high school diploma. One who worked
with some of my school friends, then only had a seventh grade education.
Are re regressing, I ask?
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:26 AM
Subject: [rehab] Job ads requirements
> Hi all,
>
> I am not in the rehab counseling field, but there are some things
> that I have heard and come across that puzzle me greatly, so I hope
> that someone can help me understand this puzzle better. Most of the
> time, when it comes to job ads, most of them require someone to have
> the degree necessary for the kind of work they do, but I also keep
> hearing from other people who work as rehab counselors or are hired to
> do so that it happens more and more that this requirement is not
> needed. I personally know of a few people in the US that work as rehab
> counselors with a high school diploma or holding other degrees, mostly
> in the computer field. I have never read a job ad that states they
> would be flexible about who they employ, but hope someone can help me
> understand this a bit better.
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:50:29 +0200
From: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rehab] Job ads requirements
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This vocation doesn't even exist in many developing and underdeveloped
countries, for a fact, social services in my country don't work as
well, so teachers from schools for the disabled keep tracking children
in rural areas and go and get them by themselves.
On 9/21/17, Angel238 via rehab <rehab at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> This post amuses me. 50 years ago, rehabilitation councilors, working for
> my state, didn't even have to have a high school diploma. One who worked
> with some of my school friends, then only had a seventh grade education.
> Are re regressing, I ask?
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "rehab" <rehab at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "adrijana prokopenko" <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:26 AM
> Subject: [rehab] Job ads requirements
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am not in the rehab counseling field, but there are some things
>> that I have heard and come across that puzzle me greatly, so I hope
>> that someone can help me understand this puzzle better. Most of the
>> time, when it comes to job ads, most of them require someone to have
>> the degree necessary for the kind of work they do, but I also keep
>> hearing from other people who work as rehab counselors or are hired to
>> do so that it happens more and more that this requirement is not
>> needed. I personally know of a few people in the US that work as rehab
>> counselors with a high school diploma or holding other degrees, mostly
>> in the computer field. I have never read a job ad that states they
>> would be flexible about who they employ, but hope someone can help me
>> understand this a bit better.
>>
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:07:21 +1200
From: "Bonnie Mosen" <bonnie at mosen.org>
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HI David and all. I'm a former vr counselor--having worked for Tenessee and
Massachusetts, and now counselors must have or be close to getting an
mrc--masters in rehabilitation counseling if they are in state or Federal
government or funded agencies. I think sometimes there may be a substitution
with social work or related fields, but they still may have to work towards
that qualification. This hasn't always been true. I remember when I got my
first job, straight out of grad school, most of the counselors had degrees
in everything from social work to art history with most not having anything
past a BA. Every vr posting I've seen over the past few years has had the
mrc qualification as an essential requirement. I'm sure there are some
counselors who have been grandfathered in, but all new hires have to have
the degree. I now live in NZ where vocational rehab doesn't exist as it does
in the US. Our equivalent are called employment consultants, and they are
much like what we saw years ago with no degree or experience. Employment
isn't a high priority for our blind services agency and it is extremely
discouraging for me to see coming from a voc rehab background. I've
interviewed for several of these employment consultant jobs and have
basically been told I'm "overqualified".
Cheers
Bonnie Mosen -----
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Cc: Andrews, David B (DEED) <david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>
Subject: Re: [rehab] Job ads requirements
I am not a Rehab Counselor -- but work for a state rehab agency. I could be
wrong here -- please anyone correct me -- but in the Federal/State rehab
system, Counselors are required to have Masters degrees in rehabilitation or
related fields. I think we sometimes hire people who are close, but have a
bit remaining to complete, but they have to do it in a certain amount of
time. Other entities hire rehab counselors, and may have other
requirements. We also hire "rehab technicians" some of whom just have high
school degrees. They are more involved with coordination, paperwork,
orientation, etc., not actual counseling.
Dave
David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer Minnesota Department of Employment
and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2294
Web | Twitter | Facebook
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Cc: adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
Subject: [rehab] Job ads requirements
Hi all,
I am not in the rehab counseling field, but there are some things that I
have heard and come across that puzzle me greatly, so I hope that someone
can help me understand this puzzle better. Most of the time, when it comes
to job ads, most of them require someone to have the degree necessary for
the kind of work they do, but I also keep hearing from other people who work
as rehab counselors or are hired to do so that it happens more and more that
this requirement is not needed. I personally know of a few people in the US
that work as rehab counselors with a high school diploma or holding other
degrees, mostly in the computer field. I have never read a job ad that
states they would be flexible about who they employ, but hope someone can
help me understand this a bit better.
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:48:07 -0500
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:19:06 -0500
From: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
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Hopefully this will change in the future for these young people. It's taking forever to improve things here and we are considered developed in the US.
Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+
> On Sep 21, 2017, at 12:50 PM, adrijana prokopenko via rehab <rehab at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> This vocation doesn't even exist in many developing and underdeveloped
> countries, for a fact, social services in my country don't work as
> well, so teachers from schools for the disabled keep tracking children
> in rural areas and go and get them by themselves.
>
>> On 9/21/17, Angel238 via rehab <rehab at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> This post amuses me. 50 years ago, rehabilitation councilors, working for
>> my state, didn't even have to have a high school diploma. One who worked
>> with some of my school friends, then only had a seventh grade education.
>> Are re regressing, I ask?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "adrijana prokopenko via rehab" <rehab at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "rehab" <rehab at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "adrijana prokopenko" <adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:26 AM
>> Subject: [rehab] Job ads requirements
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am not in the rehab counseling field, but there are some things
>>> that I have heard and come across that puzzle me greatly, so I hope
>>> that someone can help me understand this puzzle better. Most of the
>>> time, when it comes to job ads, most of them require someone to have
>>> the degree necessary for the kind of work they do, but I also keep
>>> hearing from other people who work as rehab counselors or are hired to
>>> do so that it happens more and more that this requirement is not
>>> needed. I personally know of a few people in the US that work as rehab
>>> counselors with a high school diploma or holding other degrees, mostly
>>> in the computer field. I have never read a job ad that states they
>>> would be flexible about who they employ, but hope someone can help me
>>> understand this a bit better.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rehab mailing list
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>>
>>
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