[Rehab] Reason NIB is starting Cisco course using low vision

[Bryan Schulz]

Hi,

I will be interested to hear what can be done because I know packet tracer does not work with jaws!
Bryan


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Tai,
We are monitoring it as an organization; I am more or less the point person.
Dick

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This is a fair approach, and I am glad you are monitoring the situation in the event the organized blind need to hold them to account. Thanks for doing it!

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Tai,
This is a case where I agree with you completely on principle. If I were running NIB, I would insist that they offer the program to screen reader users at the same time as low vision users.  But I don't.  So I am going to continue to monitor them to make sure they do what they say they are doing, which is figure out how Cisco training can work with screen readers. I have heard that Cisco has not been particularly accessible to blind people in the past, and it looks like NIB is working on making that possible. But I am not a technical person, so I must defer to more knowledgeable people on that. I also realize that we need to continue to let NIB know we are watching them to make sure they don't take shortcuts.
Best,
Dick Davis

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I respectfully disagree. Planning for screen reader accessibility from the start is the wisest course of action, as once these programs establish access for users of screen magnification, they rarely go back and add accessibility features for screen reader users. It is much preferable to plan and test for both from the start. I can't tell you how many remote jobs marketed for blind and visually impaired job seekers are inaccessible to blind screen reader users because they only work with magnification. I would like to see screen reader users being made a priority.

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Subject: [Rehab] Reason NIB is starting Cisco course using low vision

Dear List Members,



Rikki Howe of NIB explained why they are starting their Cisco course with low vision and then moving to screen readers:



“We are starting with low vision 1st since this is a new program for cisco working with BVI  it gives us time to figure out the virtual capabilities for the hands on portion of the training utilizing JAWS.”



Makes sense,

Dick Davis
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