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Aziza C daydreamingncolor at gmail.com
Wed Apr 8 20:35:54 UTC 2009


Well said Ashley.
Aziza

On 4/8/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> While you don't want people to stereotype us, I think you are stereotyping
> wealthy people as stuck up.
>
> Its true that you have to be wealthy to live in Mahanttan, but that's
> whether you're disabled or not.  I'll point out its wealthy people who have
> the money to give donations to nonprofits helping blind people.
> I've met my fair share of stuck up wealthy people, but not all are like
> that.
>
> Just because one fitness center in Manhattan
> said they would not offer instruction to the blind, this doesn't mean they
> all are like that.
> Additionally I question what you mean by
> "specialized instruction for the Blind"
> because blind people swim like every one else.  Yes we are taught different
> because we cannot see it, but the actions are the same.  So specialized
> instruction, there is nothing too special or different about swimming.
>
> My suggestion is you go talk to the staff at the Y or other facilities that
> interest you.  Educate them on how they can teach you.  I'd recommend
> private lessons rather than a class so you can get the feedback you need
> from the instructor.  If you can't get private lessons, do the best you can
> in a class.  Remember any gym is a place of public accomodation.  They serve
> the public so should not discriminate against you.  I think any open minded
> facility should be able to help.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ashley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William ODonnell" <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:40 AM
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] (no subject)
>
>
>>
>> One of the local fitness centers in that section of Manhattan informed
>> some of us that they do not offer specialized instruction for the Blind.
>> You are responsible for the learning of the material no matter how you
>> take in that information.  In theory, the idea of going to a small Y like
>> the 92ND street Y could work if in general, people in that area of
>> Manhattan were not so stuck up in there bubble of wealth while looking
>> down on those of us who are different.  I make such statement since most
>> people in that socioeconomic setting are so ignorant since everything
>> comes easy for them on a gold platter. I would like to see those same
>> people deal with someone outside their little bubble let alone someone who
>>
>> is different from them by an automatic appearance.  This is especially
>> when one is automatically portrayed from an assumption that they are from
>> or a part of a different socio economic status not on one’s personal level
>>
>> automatically by looks and
>> stereotypes.  Each one of you know just as well as I do what those stereo
>> types are for the Blind and how they shape perceptions of and for us as a
>> whole.  The statistics show that those of us who are blind are assumed to
>> be in an impoverished state than those of us who are not.  Automatically,
>> people fear an increase in crime with a decrease in home values when
>> someone looks different and they do not hold the same status   as the rest
>>
>> of the population.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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