[Sportsandrec] Eating and Workouts

Thu Feb 5 06:11:40 UTC 2009

Joe S. Right on, brotha!
You hafta laugh, and for Chrissake don't take yourselves so SERIOUSLY!!
: How do you know a blind guy at a nude beach?
A: It's not HARD! At 05:56 PM 2/4/2009, you wrote:
>More mature? Really Joe? Shut up. This is the fun list. We do do 
>informative serious very much and we rib each other. Has LM shot out 
>list etiquette in a bit? Granted, she may after that post, but I 
>wouldn't think so. It was an informative post. I asked Kelly to 
>resend his because I was jonesin for that formula. If'n we cannot 
>speak in lighter  tones of recreation on the sports and recreation 
>list, then where?
>Maybe your sports bra is strapped on a bit tight my brutha?
>Love ya,
>"Dance dance dance" "feel the heat of the rhythm" "feel the heat of 
>my hands" "dance dance dance" "I feel the heat of the moment" "i 
>think we have a chance" Dance Dance Dance Ratt
>Not sure why but I'm feelin the hair bands tonight
>JSNM
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'" 
><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Eating and Workouts
>
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>>Come on man.  That was an immature response to what I thought was a very
>>informative post.  Let's act more like adults and less like teenagers?
>>
>>Joe Orozco
>>
>>"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity."--James M.
>>Barrie
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shaw
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:30 PM
>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Eating and Workouts
>>
>>That post was filthy! I mean, I am more than a little turned on. All the
>>talking of thin shirts and sports bras, purrr! Whew, is it gettin warm in
>>here?
>>"Cause baby we'll be" "at the drive in" "In the old man's ford" "behind the
>>bushes" "til I'm screamin for more" "down the basement" "lock the cellar
>>door" "and baby" "talk dirty to me" Talk Dirty to Me Poison JSNM
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Thornbury, Kelly" <kthornbury at bresnan.net>
>>To: <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:52 PM
>>Subject: [Sportsandrec] Eating and Workouts
>>
>>
>>>Ashley-
>>>Breakfast is important, but you really shouldn't eat heavy right
>>>before a workout. When you eat, your body shifts more blood to your
>>>digestive system, taking away from the available blood supply for your
>>>working muscles. Secondly, when you exercise, your body releases
>>>hormones which shut down your digestive system. This food then sits in
>>>your digestive tract, and really isn't good for you.
>>>Some carbs and proteins are important to your workout energy stores,
>>>but these should be a few hours before the session. Then maybe a small
>>>snack (a banana or something, and a little protein) typically about 45
>>>minutes before you really start working out. Some people can handle
>>>eating right before a tough cardio workout, others need several hours
>>>to "clear the system." Its another one of those individual differences
>>>things, but for everyone, those hormones do shut down the digestive
>>>system (its an evolutionary "fight or flight" response).
>>>Here's what works for me:
>>>I always eat within 30 minutes of waking up in the morning. This is
>>>usually a Power Bar or something similar (I'm actually going through a
>>>box of Myoplex bars now), or a banana, a hard-boiled egg white,  and
>>>some juice. Only 200-300 calories. Later in the morning I'll have a
>>>regular breakfast. Forty-five minutes to an hour before an aerobic
>>>workout I'll have some fruit, a little protein of some sort, and maybe
>>>half a bottle of Gatorade or something similar. Within 30 minutes
>>>after my workout I eat 600-750 calories with an approximate 4 to 1
>>>carb to protein ratio (something I read somewhere, I don't know the
>>>exact research off the top of my head, probably from some supplement I
>>took at one time or another.
>>>It works for me). I'm not interested in weight loss, so I don't mind
>>>eating that many calories right after burning them off, but you should
>>>at least have a few calories right after a workout to aid in the
>>>recovery process. If I'm planning on a long (more than 2-3 hours)
>>>session, I eat a lot of complex carbs (pasta) the night before.
>>>Complex carbs take several hours to make it from the mouth to the
>>>muscles. Generally Ashley, that piece of fruit is probably enough. If
>>>you feel like you "bonk" (run out of energy during your workout) try a
>>>little more simple carbs (fruit or something).
>>>
>>>Skin fold measurements are not anything to be nervous about. Yes, the
>>>tester will pinch the skin, and the calipers are slightly
>>>uncomfortable (only a pinch, and if the tester slides them off the
>>>skin fold as opposed to opening the calipers...novice mistake).
>>>Depending on the test, there will usually be either a three-site,
>>>four-site, or a seven-site test (some formulas may be different). The
>>>seven site is more accurate. You should wear gym shorts, and women
>>>should wear a sports bra. Usually, you will be tested by someone of
>>>the same gender, but not always (some gyms don't have testers of both
>>>genders available). If not, you do not have to take your shirt off,
>>>the tester should be able to account for a shirt (make sure its a
>>>thinner T-shirt). The seven-site test includes the scapula, next to
>>>the chest muscle, mid-axillary (in line and down from the arm pit),
>>>the triceps, the iliac crest (hip bone), near the naval, and the front
>>>of the thigh. The measurements are in millimeters, and then put into a
>>>formula to calculate your approximate body fat. The measurements are
>>>usually taken three times each for better accuracy (things like how
>>>the tester pinches the skin, the placement of the caliper on the skin
>>>fold, and the reading of the instrument all can affect results). Yes,
>>>it will probably leave a red mark, but no more than being pinched a
>>>couple of times in the same place. The test only takes maybe 10
>>>minutes from start to finish, then the tester should sit down with you
>>>and discuss the results. The hand-held device you mentioned is ok, but
>>>there are just too many variables that affect those results (lotion on
>>>your hands, how much water you drink, did you drink a Gatorade,
>>>individual differences in the body's resistance to electrical currents,
>>just to name a few). It is, however, quicker and less "personal."
>>>
>>>Joe- I'll send it to you off list so everyone doesn't have to read it
>>>again...The take home message was that there is no research that
>>>states one time over another is better for everyone, its a personal
>>>choice. My message is: When ever you have the time to get into the
>>gym...Do it.
>>>
>>>Anita-
>>>I am currently majoring in Kinesiology and Health Promotions with an
>>>emphasis in exercise prescription. I also have an associate's degree
>>>in physical education, and working on minors in sports and exercise
>>>psychology and exercise sciences/physiology. I started "independent"
>>>studies in fitness and nutrition over twenty-years ago when my dad was
>>>a category III road bike racer. I studied obsessively research in the
>>>area of bodybuilding (sounds hokey I know, but bodybuilding is a
>>>largely unregulated industry, and if something doesn't work, you won't
>>>see it there for long; if that makes sense). I was also a cat II road
>>>racer in Europe, and worked with a team trainer extensively. I am
>>>currently preparing for my ACSM Health and Fitness Instructor and NSCA
>>>Strength and Conditioning certifications once I graduate. Now, besides
>>>my university studies, I spend my days reading numerous
>>>exercise-related journals, and I have access to some really cool
>>>research programs and studies as part of my education.
>>>
>>>Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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