[Sportsandrec] sports as a blind person

Sat Jan 3 02:14:23 UTC 2009

Mike, I think that position would be doable with no adaptation.  Can you 
post
the youtube link?

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Sivill" <mike.sivill at viewplus.com>
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Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 5:49 PM
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>I believe it was center.
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:21 PM
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>
> A totally blind football player?  What position did he play? Without a
> beeping ball I would think he would have a position where he can contact 
> the
>
> ball often like being center.
> Ashley
>
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>
>>I saw on youtube a totally blind kid who plays football on his middle
>>school
>> team. Also I new of a high schooler who did the same thing,, with almost
>> no
>> adaptation. Although I never was interested in football and also get my
>> crashing jollies from Judo and wrestling, sometimes it just takes someone
>> else demonstrating something to prove to you that it's possible.
>> Mike
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shaw
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:10 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] More Beep Baseball
>>
>> Right on Kelly,  We are in total sympatico on this issue.
>> My vision took me to a place where I could not exactly do some of the
>> sports
>>
>> I loved, so I stopped doing them. I cannot play basketball anymore 
>> without
>> it being modified and be good at it, so I don't play basketball anymore. 
>> I
>> am not interested in playing "altered" basketball, some are and I say go
>> for
>>
>> it. It is not for me. I still dribble, pass, shoot, and teach 
>> fundamentals
>> with my daughter who is just learning to play, but I have no interest in
>> playing. I get my basketball and soccer fix with goalball which yes Pete 
>> I
>> know is a bananna  to an orange, but I like banannas. I like peaches too
>> lol.
>> I played football in junior high. I liked defense as I loved the hitting.
>> I
>> like the violence and the feel of two human bodies at great speeds
>> crashing
>> into each other, I'm kind of a sicko and okay with it. I get that fix 
>> from
>> wrestling, judo, and jujitsu, it's the same if not better for me.
>> When we lift, swim, or spin,  there is no difference in blind or sighted,
>> they are level playing fields. This is why I think blind people do them 
>> so
>> much.
>> I am blind. I am an athlete. I am a blind athlete. They are just
>> adjectives
>> to throw in the pot that make the soup of our being.
>> "Everybody's talking about revolutions, evolutions, mastications,
>> flagelocations, regulations" "Integrations, meditations, united nations,
>> congratulations" "All we are saying" "Is give peace a chance" Give Peace 
>> a
>> Chance John Lennon
>> Sorry so long, no I'm not (smile)
>>
>> Joe Shaw Nashville Maffia
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Thornbury, Kelly" <kthornbury at bresnan.net>
>> To: <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:08 PM
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] More Beep Baseball
>>
>>
>>> First of all, my class experience as one blind person on a team of 10
>>> playing softball is certainly different than 10 blind people out there
>>> trying to find a ball that's quit rolling (or worse, beeping), trying to
>>> find bases, and trying most of all to avoid running into each other. All
>>> my classmates were immeasurably helpful in integrating me into the game.
>>>
>>> Second, I personally have no problem considering beep baseball to be a
>>> "blind" sport...because unless I am mistaken, everyone wears sleep
>>> shades,
>>
>>> a rule in itself that makes it a sport where vision is eliminated as an
>>> ability. I have no problem calling adapted sports what they are, or
>>> playing by the rules set within them. Does it really matter if a batter
>>> gets three strikes or four, or if there are two bases instead of three,
>>> honestly? Baseball and softball have similar rules and strategic
>>> concepts,
>>
>>> but specific rules are considerably different...despite the similarities
>>> they are two different games. I have no problem calling an orange an
>>> orange, or a "blind sport" what it is.
>>>
>>> This might  be where I stray from NFB teachings, but I accept that there
>>> are many things I am no longer able to participate in...I will never
>>> again
>>
>>> take off on a solo bike trip; partake in some knarly back country, out 
>>> of
>>> bounds skiing; trek solo across the high route from Chamonix to Zermatt.
>>> I'm fine with that...I have a disability that doesn't allow me to safely
>>> participate in such activities. I am happy, in fact more than happy, to
>>> play the games I can, come up with rules or alterations that allow more
>>> participation in "mainstream" games, and to leave alone the ones I don't
>>> feel comfortable in. I don't consider myself to be a blind athlete
>>> (despite being totally blind), I am an athlete who happens to rely on
>>> other senses and abilities besides vision to participate in
>>> activities...I
>>
>>> am a person who happens to be blind...I define the blindness, it doesn't
>>> define me.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the information on the beeping Frisbee. I've been looking
>>> for one; I'm hoping to get involved with the ultimate Frisbee 
>>> intramurals
>>> on campus.
>>>
>>> Now a question for the list: For any guide dog users out there who are
>>> into water recreation like canoeing, I am looking for a good life vest
>>> for
>>
>>> my guide (yes 99.9% of all labs can swim, and do it willingly, but 
>>> better
>>> safe than sorry). I have seen a couple that I didn't care for the design
>>> of, but it seems that as a rafting guide when I was sighted, I saw many
>>> more different designs that I can't seem to be able to "GOOGLE."
>>>
>>> Kelly
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