[Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community

Fri Aug 10 13:38:04 UTC 2012

Yeah. I get that people have families, jobs, financial restraints,
etc. I still think, if someone really wants to be healthier, then
they'll find a way to do it. I'm not talkingabout people spending
hours a day to become world class athletes. That's not realistic for
the average person. I'm just talking about getting off the couch and
making the choice to be more active or make better choices about what
to eat. I have met few people who are genuinely "too busy" to do any
kind of exercize. And I know a pair of 70 year olds who are more
active and in better shape than most young people I know. Everyone has
obstacles to fitness. It's a matter of deciding how to get around
those obstacles. Using work, family etc to say you don't have time to
be active still seems like excuses to me. I work full time. True, I
don't have a family to worry about so it's easy for me to be selfish
and go row in the evenings after work or spend my Saturdays on a long
ride on the tandem. But when I can't fit those things in, I find other
ways to do some kind of physical activity because it is important to
me. If I have to get up an hour earlier to get in a workout on the
erg, then so be it. If I have to skip a tv show, fine. It'll be on
again eventually. I've torn up both my knees. The doc said no running,
so I found activities that get around that particular limitation. I
don't see why the average blind person who currently does nothing
can't find a way to start doing something. I don't expect everyone to
become an elite athlete. I'm not an elite athlete and I never will be.
But I'm 50 pounds lighter than I used to be and my doctor has stopped
threatening to put me on blood pressure and cholesterol medication
because I stopped telling myself I was too blind or too busy to do
anything about it. Everyone on this list already understands that diet
and exercize are important. I think the original point of this thread
was to figure out how to get your average couch potato in the blind
community to make a lifestyle change. I don't think any comments on
here have been intended to be hateful or personal attacks on anyone.
I've seen some interesting ideas and it's encouraging to see the
sudden flurry of activity on this list. I don't think any comments
here should be taken personally. I think everyone here wants the same
thing. We just have to figure out how we as the S&R Division can reach
out to more blind people and get them to make the choice to be more
active.

Audrey

On 8/10/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I can usually squeeze in a couple of hours a day.  You have just got to
> figure out how to squeezeit in.  You are looking for an average per week,
> more of a balance.  Ashley,  you might be over training that one exercise.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:06 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List; Sports and
> Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>
> Good morning, Ashley,
>
> Doing two spin classes a day is definitely the exception to the rule of
> spinning and not, by any means, the rule, for a truth that, most of us
> indeed are employed and cannot afford the time and effort required to
> invest
> so much in cultivating physical, conditioning.  /9/2012, Ashley Bramlett
> wrote:
>>Carley,
>>I wish you'd say things without profanity. Also, if you can and want to
>>workout twice, then do so. But for me, one workout in school was
>>enough. I had loads of reading to do and one spin class wore me out.
>>As Bill said, exercise is important, but most people need only about
>>45 minutes of consistent exercise to stay in shape. I think your
>>willingness to do two sessions is the exception not the rule. If I did
>>two workouts a day, it was only one spin class and the other was a
>>lighter workout on my own; usually a brisk walk.
>>Be glad you had the time and  stamina to do two a day.
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:39 PM
>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>>
>>Good morning, Robin,
>>
>>All those enumerated points not withstanding, you can't forget being
>>disciplined such that we can jump up at 3:30 to 4:00, to get to the gym
>>in time for a 6:30A.M class, prior to doing our day, and then being
>>disciplined enough to drag our asses back for more in the evenings. And
>>Bill, School happens to bfunction as our J.O.B, we are working for
>>rehab in exchange for them giving us help necessary to prepare for
>>entry into the work force. As such, when the semester begins at the end
>>of this here moon, we will absolutely restrict our working out to one
>>in the morn before class.
>>Have an athletic day, Robin, and Bill!
>>Car AM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>>>Hello:
>>>
>>>What do you consider youth? Please explain. Do you consider someone,
>>>who is 70 Plus years Old young?
>>>
>>>I also disagree that you are NOT able to incorporate a daily routine
>>>of exercise because you WORK a Full Time Job & Raise a Family because
>>>many of our comrades in Spin Class do just that.
>>>It's just adjusting your schedule and sticking to it, which I admit is
>>>DIFFICULT.
>>>
>>>As for normal responsibilities, everyone chooses whether or NOT to
>>>raise a family, and just because Carly & I decide NOT to have children
>>>shouldn't minimize our responsibilities.
>>>
>>>As for your KNEES hurting while spinning, I think you should have
>>>someone adjust your Bike's Settings. your Knees should NOT be hurting.
>>>It is my impression that you are supposed to FEEL the affects of
>>>spinning in your Calves, thighs, & your core (abdominal region).
>>>
>>>Carly failed to mention that we also walk quite a bit before & after
>>>our meals in addition to our WORKOUTS.  We decide to take STAIRS
>>>instead of the ELEVATOR if at all possible. we also do NOT indulge as
>>>much as you think primarily because we are on a budget, but when we
>>>can we do.
>>>
>>>Don't HATE..
>>>
>>>At 06:25 AM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>>>>Hi Carley,
>>>>You have the luxury of time and I am guessing youth as well.
>>>>Virtually no one who works a full time job and or has a familey and
>>>>normal responsabilitys has the time to do 2 to 3 hours of exercise a
>>>>day. My knees hurt just hinking about 3 hrs of spinning.  Its always
>>>>possable to create some time in ones life to get in a workout even if
>>>>its just a quick half hour  a couple times a week.  And if you put
>>>>enough into it thats all you need to stay in good shape.
>>>>Bill Kociaba
>>>>CRUISEONE
>>>>Bill at Ycruise.com
>>>>954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
>>>>7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Carly Mihalakis"
>>>><carlymih at comcast.net>
>>>>To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:35 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, LM,
>>>>>
>>>>>Doing 2 1-hour or 90-minuit, spin classes per day, 1 in the morning,
>>>>>followed by another in the afternoon or evening.
>>>>>"Dieting" by default  is setting oneself up for eminent, failure.
>>>>>I am happy to say I endulge in anything I want to eat, making sure
>>>>>to get enough hard, aerobics that anything I chose to eat will not
>>>>>make it to my waistline or otherwise. However, doing two classes per
>>>>>day only works right now because it's summer, and we are off from
>>>>>school. Next semester however, Robin and I only get one workout in
>>>>>the morning save for times of vacation. You can be sure I will
>>>>>adjust a calory intake, when the time is upon us.At
>>>>>12:11 PM 8/8/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>So here's my problem ... I've done all the crash dieting for judo
>>>>>>in order to cut down to a weight class or two and all of that has
>>>>>>really screwed with my head.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know junk food is bad. I know exercise is good for me and I would
>>>>>>totally do more of it if the day had about an extra hour or two a day.
>>>>>>But for someone who should drop about 20 pounds, the idea of "dieting"
>>>>>>brings up some really emotional baggage. So what does one do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sometimes, picking up that fork and taking bites of an all you can
>>>>>>eat dessert bar sounds great and you want to do it because 10, 15,
>>>>>>years ago you were forced to eat 900 calories a day until you lost
>>>>>>the weight your coaches told you to lose and you were told to go
>>>>>>run 2 miles while your coach followed you in his car to make sure
>>>>>>you ran them. I mean seriously, sometimes the whole concept of
>>>>>>eating right makes me want to sit down with a bucket of Chunky Monkey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/7/12, Roger Acuna <kearney125 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > I am reminded when I visit family for thanksgiving.  Its a
>>>>>>junk food > free
>>>>>> > for all!  Healthy trays are also part of this but I firstt go
>>>>>>for > anything
>>>>>> > chocolate.   Oh, another time at Dizney land, I ate at this
>>>>>>place with > an
>>>>>> > all-you -can-eat  dessert bar. Well, never mind the main course!
>>>>>> > I litterally had a huge plate of mixed desserts with a huge
>>>>>>glass of > milk.
>>>>>> > The happiest place on earth!  Yes, healthy eating is really a
>>>>>>conscious life
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > style wich I mostly have but I go off the chocolate deep end
>>>>>>every now > and
>>>>>> > then.  Moderation, modderation, modderation!
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>>>>> > To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
>>>>>> > <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:05 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind
>>>>>> > Community
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hello Roger,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yes, Americans are killing themselves with their fork.  All
>>>>>>it takes >> is
>>>>>> >> asking yourself if you really want that chip or do you
>>>>>> really want >> to
>>>>>> >> loose
>>>>>> >> weight.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> My problem is will power.  I had been losing weight and
>>>>>> doing well >> and
>>>>>> >> then
>>>>>> >> my mother in law came to visit.  Now she already has diabetes
>>>>>>because >> of
>>>>>> >> her
>>>>>> >> diet and she loves junk food and candy.  She would get stuff
>>>>>>and I >> would
>>>>>> >> eat
>>>>>> >> it.  Now I know this was not my mother in law's fault, it
>>>>>> was my >> fault
>>>>>> >> for
>>>>>> >> eating the junk.  I have learned my lesson well and when she
>>>>>>comes >> back
>>>>>> >> this
>>>>>> >> year I will really watch myself.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> JODY
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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