[Sportsandrec] Research Not Survey

Fri Aug 10 21:28:42 UTC 2012

Hey Justin,
Yeah I'll sometimes use a sighted guide in theatres, huge crowds, or 
restaurants. I don't like losing the wife or friends when in a throng. 
Jernigan said in I believe Nature of Independence that using whatever tool 
necessary for the time and situation is fine and apropriate as long as one 
has the skills to do it on one's own. I think that's about right smile.
J
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> Hello, Peter. My apologies for assuming the definition of cited guide that 
> I use is universal. I consider any guide that is cited to be a kind of 
> cited guide, with very intensities and degrees of the aforementioned 
> definition. Again, my apologies. Blind guy dogs are very rarely see. For 
> the record: I also find load echolocation usage to d horrifyingly unsafe.
>
> Justin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    Don't forget a frequent cane, guide dog user or none of the above. 
>> This
>> comes from someone who uses a cane or a guide dog depending on the travel
>> situation and does not rely on sighted guides including for participating 
>> in
>> athletic activities and considers the lone use of echolocation taboo! The
>> comments below illustrate the damage overmoddification of sports for the
>> blind can do. Never mind the survey. Research in to how the blind
>> participated in competitive sports prior to overmoddificationitis would 
>> be
>> far more valuable.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] No AdapTap System Necessary
>>
>>
>> Justin,
>> good question; why not a survey on this? You could become famous then.
>> smile.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: JUSTIN LOUCHART
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 3:57 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] No AdapTap System Necessary
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd find it interesting to see if someone who puts down overusing
>> adaptations is a frequent sighted guide user, or if they are an active
>> echolocation user? Humans did in fact evolve to be active and passive
>> echolocation users, and sighted guide is a cultural adaptation, not an
>> inherent biological one. My point: If a categorical imperative is in
>> fact a categorical imperative, it's universally applied.
>>
>> Just a thought based on principle, not the flow of conversation...
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On 8/10/12, Robin <robin-melvin at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>  Hello:
>>>
>>> I don't THINK we should try to IMPOSE our views of what works for us
>>> upon others.
>>>
>>> If adaptation helps, use it. if it doesn't, don't use it. It's that
>>> SIMPLE.
>>>
>>> At 09:56 PM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>>>> I agree.  I kept proper form when I swam and didn't hit my head.  I did
>>>> have
>>>> to learn proper form.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> jody at thewhitehats.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:28 PM
>>>> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] No AdapTap System Necessary
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think there is too much adaptation being done for blind
>>>> participants.  I even heard of a yoga mat designed for the blind.  Give 
>>>> me
>>>> a
>>>> break.
>>>>
>>>> JODY
>>>>
>>>>
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