[Sportsandrec] Research Not Survey

[jalouchart at gmail.com]

Hello, Peter. My apologies for assuming the definition of cited guide that I use is universal. I consider any guide that is cited to be a kind of cited guide, with very intensities and degrees of the aforementioned definition. Again, my apologies. Blind guy dogs are very rarely see. For the record: I also find load echolocation usage to d horrifyingly unsafe.

Justin

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On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
>    Don't forget a frequent cane, guide dog user or none of the above. This 
> comes from someone who uses a cane or a guide dog depending on the travel 
> situation and does not rely on sighted guides including for participating in 
> athletic activities and considers the lone use of echolocation taboo! The 
> comments below illustrate the damage overmoddification of sports for the 
> blind can do. Never mind the survey. Research in to how the blind 
> participated in competitive sports prior to overmoddificationitis would be 
> far more valuable.
> 
> Peter Donahue
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List" 
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] No AdapTap System Necessary
> 
> 
> Justin,
> good question; why not a survey on this? You could become famous then.
> smile.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: JUSTIN LOUCHART
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 3:57 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] No AdapTap System Necessary
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'd find it interesting to see if someone who puts down overusing
> adaptations is a frequent sighted guide user, or if they are an active
> echolocation user? Humans did in fact evolve to be active and passive
> echolocation users, and sighted guide is a cultural adaptation, not an
> inherent biological one. My point: If a categorical imperative is in
> fact a categorical imperative, it's universally applied.
> 
> Just a thought based on principle, not the flow of conversation...
> 
> Justin
> 
> On 8/10/12, Robin <robin-melvin at comcast.net> wrote:
>>  Hello:
>> 
>> I don't THINK we should try to IMPOSE our views of what works for us
>> upon others.
>> 
>> If adaptation helps, use it. if it doesn't, don't use it. It's that
>> SIMPLE.
>> 
>> At 09:56 PM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>>> I agree.  I kept proper form when I swam and didn't hit my head.  I did
>>> have
>>> to learn proper form.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> jody at thewhitehats.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:28 PM
>>> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] No AdapTap System Necessary
>>> 
>>> Personally I think there is too much adaptation being done for blind
>>> participants.  I even heard of a yoga mat designed for the blind.  Give me
>>> a
>>> break.
>>> 
>>> JODY
>>> 
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