[Sportsandrec] Sportsandrec Digest, Vol 102, Issue 3

Tue Sep 9 21:59:39 UTC 2014

Hi the NFB facility in Denver has a plan that really works well. They team up with a local tandem bike group to form a group called Eye cycle.  The sighted bikers come to the center and act as captains  they go up to 25-30 miles, stop for lunch somewhere then go back to the center  they go every other Saturday during spring summer   I think they have a web page.   

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On Sep 9, 2014, at 5:33 PM, J Louchart via Sportsandrec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> George, how do you make sure that someone is getting something out of
> what you're doing together? I fear that people may be entirely genuine
> in saying that they're getting something positive out of a
> relationship when, for them, it's merely a charitable act. Part of me
> is fine with that. Why deny people the right to feel good about
> helping me when I truly need help? On the other hand, part of me is
> extremely uncomfortable with that dynamic. There's something in me
> which demands to be an established equal. I have to chew on that a bit
> more...
> 
> J
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/9/14, George McDermith via Sportsandrec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>  Hi J,
>> 
>>  A great question, as I too am very keen on making sure my work out
>> partners are getting something out of what we are doing. I agree, if
>> it is a charity case, then things will fall off as soon as the do good
>> desire wanes in the person.
>> 
>>  I tandem cycle, and tend to conform my rides to what my captain
>> wants- i.e. if they can only go for 10-15 miles I take them up on it,
>> and attempt to find someone who is more willing to do 50-75 for
>> another ride. I also offer my thanks, and try to make sure it is a win
>> win for myself and my partner. Whenever I feel like it is leaning
>> towards charity I double check and make sure they are getting
>> something out of what we are doing. If they still seem to be leaning
>> towards charity after this talk I assume that they will not be long
>> for our partnership. Nothing is fool proof of course, but this has
>> seemed to work for me.
>> 
>> On 9/9/14, sportsandrec-request at nfbnet.org
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>>>   4. Re: Gym Partners (Carly Mihalakis)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:39:58 -0500
>>> From: "maryjane griffith" <timbersgirl219 at gmail.com>
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>>> Hello,
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>>> My name is maryann and I am from Louisiana. I was wondering if there is
>>> anyone in Louisiana who knows about any  sports for the blind around my
>>> area.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> maryann
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>>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC)
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>>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:01:10 -0400
>>> From: J Louchart <jalouchart at gmail.com>
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>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Gym Partners
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>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> Technical question: Which methods do you folks use to find people with
>>> whom to go to the gym?
>>> 
>>> Social question: How do you prevent an activity based friendship from
>>> becoming a service based friendship? That is, my caution regarding a
>>> running partner is that I don't want the partner to be performing a
>>> charity service for me. I find that the charity-service mentality
>>> doesn't lend itself to a long partnership. Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> J Louchart
>>> 
>>> "Everyone is a genius; but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb
>>> a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid." -- Albert
>>> Einstein
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:30:12 -0700
>>> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>>> To: J Louchart <jalouchart at gmail.com>,    Sports and Recreation for the
>>>    Blind Discussion List    <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>,    Sports and
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>>> Good morning, J,
>>> 
>>> Well, if you get yourself involved with say a gym, or somewhere where
>>> working out is not particularly exceptional, it's something people do
>>> in the coarse of practicing normalcy. 12:01 PM 9/8/2014, J Louchart
>>> via Sportsandrec wrote:
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> 
>>>> Technical question: Which methods do you folks use to find people with
>>>> whom to go to the gym?
>>>> 
>>>> Social question: How do you prevent an activity based friendship from
>>>> becoming a service based friendship? That is, my caution regarding a
>>>> running partner is that I don't want the partner to be performing a
>>>> charity service for me. I find that the charity-service mentality
>>>> doesn't lend itself to a long partnership. Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> J
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> J Louchart
>>>> 
>>>> "Everyone is a genius; but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb
>>>> a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid." -- Albert
>>>> Einstein
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>> 
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> George McDermith
>> 
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> J Louchart
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> a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid." -- Albert
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