[Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: body mass index and charting progress

Mon Feb 27 04:28:48 UTC 2017

The body fat percentage isn't the same as body fat index. It allegedly measure the amount of body fat you have. I don't think it is the same thing.
Cindy

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Nella,
You will just know based on how you feel if you are making progress. Can you go longer? Can you lift heavier weights? You will just feel more fit.

Getting your heart rate up for a while for a novice exerciser is a good thing. If its an aerobic workout like fast walking, you can alternate the pace to give your body a break and  you need to catch your breath.

As for progress, it really depends on your goal. You can use the scale as an indicator if you want to lose weight. Yes, there are other ways to take your BMI. You can get a test done at a gym called the BIA. That is bio impedence something; forget what the  A means.
It is a hand-held device that passes a electric current through your hands and tells you a percent. I had this BIA test done at my health club.
However, the old fashioned pinchers
are still used and are reliable. I've actually had both done. Back when I had a personal trainer which I miss, I had the pinchers done to me. It was done at our local rec center which has trainers employed by the county.
I actually wanted it. I was just curious if my fat percentage was as high as I thought it was. This test is the skinfold test and done with calipers. The calipers are the prongs that pinch you. After they take the measurements, they use a formaula to do the fat analysis. If you have the skinfold test done to you, make sure it’s the same person. Different professionals do different measurements. Some take three measurements and others take seven. 
You want consistency to chart progress.

The pinchers are actually not too bad in my opinion. I think getting a cavity filled or a teeth cleaning is worse.
Yes its uncomfortable to have your skin pinched especially in the stomach; they have to pinch you about five times to do it. But its done quickly and hopefully they do it gently as they insert the instrument on your skin.

I've heard the skinfold test is more reliable than the BIA. So if you can get the skinfold test done, go for it.
Back when I was more serious about weight loss, I measured progress with the scale and waste and hip measurements. My trainer had a flexible tape measure and she measured me at three points.

You can also measure strength and endurance other ways. Its best if you have a fitness professional do it though. If you want to test your strength, this is measured with a one rep max as you lift something. Strength and endurance is also measured with things like the number of push ups you can do within a minute or number of crunches you can do.

Charting progress is highly individualized.

Just get active and enjoy it a while without worrying about numbers.

Ashley
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Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: body mass index and charting progress

Bill are there other ways of figuring out one's body mass index besides using those pinchy things?

This is another thing we did in fitness classes in college and maybe there are new and better ways of doing it now.

I'm sure I don't want to know my weight or body mass index.  It would only be depressing.

How do the rest of you monitor your progress?

Do you use your weight, heart rate BMI or just go on how the workouts are feeling?

Also when do you know it is time to step up the workouts?

Sorry if these are stupid questions; it's been years since I've been able to workout and I've forgotten a lot.  I used to know a lot of this, but time and bad health has taken it's toll on my mind and body. Lol

Nella

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Hay Ron,
Wow man you were in some amazing shape.  Maybe not at that level any more but I am sure you are in far better condition than most.
Re the target heart rate, The 220 minus your age was the standard for a long time but there are a few other formulas.  II am guessing there were far too many people like Ron who wereen't challenged at all when they based things on the220- so someone came up with something a bit more useful for older fit folks.  Only reason I even know this is I recently had to learn these formulas to take the ACE personal trainer exam.  And trust me that was one of the most challenging things I have done in a while. At 57 its just not as easy to absorb new info as it used to be.
Sorry about that back to the formula. I believe this is called the Carvonian formula; Start as before 220-your age Next you deduct your resting heart rate from that number.
The difference gives you what they call your heart rate reserve You then multiply that number by whatever % you want to work at Then you add back in your HRR (heart rate reserve) And that gives you the peak number to work at.
I guess this doesn't really help you get your max heart rate but we rarely if ever want to work at that rate anyway.
I found after doing this a few times that it gives you a higher number than the old way.
A client/friend of mine who is very fit at 76 was very happy when I told him to shoot for the new number as he said an easy bike ride to the gym was getting him up to the old number and he was just getting warmed up.
Hope this helps Nella.
Bill

Bill Kociaba
www.kociaba-fitness.com
"Building Better Bodies Since 1981"

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Subject: [Sportsandrec] accessible heartrate monitor? was Re: aerobic workout

The 220 minus your age is one way to do it. It is a general rule.

13 years ago, when I was on the National Paralympic Cycling Team, My coach had me race a 9-mile time trial, on a stationary bike. Every 30 seconds, my talking heart rate monitor would call out my heart-rate, which I’d call out to the man timing me. When we were finished, he told me my max heart-rate. 
That, became my max. It improved with my fitness.

When I was racing the 2004 Texas Time Trial Championships, my average heart rate was 189, iirc. I was almost 36 years old. A year or two after that, I was on a tandem, going for an intermediate sprint, at the city limit sign. 
This is a common skill drill, for bike racing. My heart rate peaked at 206.

Now, at 48, I don’t know if I can go that high, but I’m not in the shape I was, then.

Still, I think the method would still be fine. I’m not a doctor, so check with him/her, first.

What are you using for a talking heart-rate monitor? Mine no longer works and is no longer made. It was the Heart Talker. It worked well, through some earbuds.

Ron, in Sacramento

> On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Jessica Beecham via SportsandRec 
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> 220 - your age is your max target heart rate. Generally you want to be 
> working at 60-80 percent of that number
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 25, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Nella Foster via SportsandRec 
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org <mailto:sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>> Can anyone tell me how to do the formula to figure out my target 
>> heart range?
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>> I used to know how to do it, but can't remember now.
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>> Nella
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