[SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails

Thu Jan 26 00:25:17 UTC 2023

I have my phone and use it for music or keeping in contact with
family. My friends and I use it if if we are in different parts of the
camping ground and need to reach any other like if I need help
navigating back because I went and took a shower and they didn't or
something. But I try to use it as less as possible. I feel renewed and
reconnected and recharged being in nature. Feels like I am at home or
at peace more when I can focus on the sounds, smells, etc. I have
looked at the braille super store and I haven't found anythere.

On 1/25/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
<sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Joseph and Ashley,
>
> The iPhone compass is exceptionally good and doesn't rely upon cell
> signal or data to operate. Ashley, if you know of braille compasses
> made and sold within the past ten years, I'd like to know about them.
> I was a mobility specialist until a few years ago and I know of none
> being sold anywhere in the world. If they're back on the market,
> that's news to me.
>
> Sanho
>
> On 1/25/23, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I don't mind using my phone compass but i don't know how well it
>> works. And i try not to have my phone much while camping.
>>
>> I need to check that out. I know making prodcuts for the blind take
>> more worker and extra features which cost more but sometimess it seems
>> like the price is so high no one can afford it.
>>
>> On 1/25/23, Ashley Bramlett via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello Joseph,
>>>
>>> Braille compasses are available through blindness companies; I think
>>> Independent Living aids has them and the NFB Independence Market.
>>> I would guess talking compasses can be bought too there.
>>>
>>> Yes, the Victor Trek is still being made. There is also a new stand alone
>>> device from Humanware for GPS.
>>> Its real expensive though but if you can afford it or have support to buy
>>> it, the device has cameras to OCR  print and also take pictures of the
>>> environment. It’s the Stellar Trek. The Stellar Trek also uses artificial
>>> intelligence to describe the environment.
>>> I'm not sure about landmarks with it. I do not know how useful it would
>>> be
>>> at a camp site or trail. That is a good question for Humanware staff.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 4:12 PM
>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>> Cc: Joseph Bundy
>>> Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails
>>>
>>> I been trying to find a brialle or talking compass
>>>
>>> On 1/25/23, Joseph Bundy <joseph.bundy92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do they still make the trek?
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/23, Tom Evans via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I think and please don’t quote me but the victor reader track, you can
>>>>> set
>>>>> up your own markings as in your tent site is here and the trail is here
>>>>> or
>>>>> like at a university your favorite meeting place with friends is here.
>>>>> Yet
>>>>> you first have to get there. Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Nella Foster via SportsandRec
>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I am so sad about Sound Scape.  It is the one I have been using
>>>>>> most.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nella
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: SportsandRec <sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>> Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:23 PM
>>>>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nella,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I've historically used is Microsoft Soundscape, but it's no
>>>>>> longer
>>>>>> available for download and will no longer be operational at all in
>>>>>> June.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have some programmer friends who are working on rebuilding it, but
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> a heavy lift. I'll keep you informed. Otherwise I don't know of
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> suitable for large, outdoor spaces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/25/23, Nella Foster via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also depending on how far out you are, you may not have cell service.
>>>>>>> This can be a real issue if you have an emergency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have done quite a lot of hiking over the years and some of the
>>>>>>> trails are almost impossible to follow without some sighted
>>>>>>> assistance.  Heavy rains can wash out trails and make them even
>>>>>>> harder
>>>>>>> to follow.  I find it easier to feel the trails with my cane during
>>>>>>> the summer when the vegetation is thicker.  Well, that is true now
>>>>>>> that I live in Missouri.  I used to live in Arizona and there was a
>>>>>>> lot less vegetation.  You really didn't want to bump into some of the
>>>>>>> vegetation in Arizona. Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I currently live in walking distance of a several hundred acre park.
>>>>>>> It has many rather easy hiking trails, but it is hard for me to
>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>> them with my cane, they tend to curve around and join up with lots of
>>>>>>> different trails.
>>>>>>> There are a few gravel roads that go through the park for park
>>>>>>> employee
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>> I am able to feel these roads with my cane and stay on them.  I do
>>>>>>> walk to the park and walk on the gravel roads by myself.  Someday I
>>>>>>> hope to learn a couple of the hiking trails, there is one that goes
>>>>>>> along the creek that I would like to be able to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious to know if there are certain GPS apps that people are
>>>>>>> using for hiking and other outdoor experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nella
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: SportsandRec <sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tom
>>>>>>> Evans via SportsandRec
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 12:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Tom Evans <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cited or unsighted it would never be recommended to go on your own. I
>>>>>>> used to work on a mountain rescue team and the multiple amounts of
>>>>>>> problems that there were. For one simple reason if something happens
>>>>>>> to you then how to notify others. This isn’t the beginning of a close
>>>>>>> call… Cited or non-cited it would not be recommended to go on your
>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Located in central Oklahoma. No specific wants other than local. For
>>>>>>>> hiking, I'd use my usual long, rigid cane and an equally long or
>>>>>>>> longer trekking pole. I will definitely be going alone or with
>>>>>>>> another totally blind person.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/23, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Where are you located? Are you wanting something easy hard?
>>>>>>>>> Anything
>>>>>>>>> particular you want in the camping area? I usually research or ask
>>>>>>>>> people i know about places or ask them to describe something from
>>>>>>>>> photos. Usually we got to places they been or have good ptotos and
>>>>>>>>> reviews. I don't know how much vission you have but if not much or
>>>>>>>>> none, i wouldn't go hiking alone especially for the fist time. i
>>>>>>>>> haven't done it much but would hate to go on a trail and discover a
>>>>>>>>> drop off the hard way. I know some good places if you want to
>>>>>>>>> discuss places.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I need to spend more time in nature. How do you folks
>>>>>>>>>> choose/locate
>>>>>>>>>> campsites and hiking trails for the first time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
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>>>>
>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
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>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
>>>> Helen Keller
>>>>
>>>
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>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
>>> Helen Keller
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>>
>> Joseph S. Bundy
>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
>> Helen Keller
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Take Care and God Bless

Joseph S. Bundy
Cell: 1-405-693-4771
E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
Greek.-Romans 1:16
The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
Helen Keller