[SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails

Masha Sten Clanton morningglow at verizon.net
Thu Jan 26 00:30:07 UTC 2023 

I know the Independence Market has talking compasses. I bought one from them, but haven't tried it yet.


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From: SportsandRec <sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 7:25 PM
To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joseph Bundy <joseph.bundy92 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails

I have my phone and use it for music or keeping in contact with family. My friends and I use it if if we are in different parts of the camping ground and need to reach any other like if I need help navigating back because I went and took a shower and they didn't or something. But I try to use it as less as possible. I feel renewed and reconnected and recharged being in nature. Feels like I am at home or at peace more when I can focus on the sounds, smells, etc. I have looked at the braille super store and I haven't found anythere.

On 1/25/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Joseph and Ashley,
>
> The iPhone compass is exceptionally good and doesn't rely upon cell 
> signal or data to operate. Ashley, if you know of braille compasses 
> made and sold within the past ten years, I'd like to know about them.
> I was a mobility specialist until a few years ago and I know of none 
> being sold anywhere in the world. If they're back on the market, 
> that's news to me.
>
> Sanho
>
> On 1/25/23, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I don't mind using my phone compass but i don't know how well it 
>> works. And i try not to have my phone much while camping.
>>
>> I need to check that out. I know making prodcuts for the blind take 
>> more worker and extra features which cost more but sometimess it 
>> seems like the price is so high no one can afford it.
>>
>> On 1/25/23, Ashley Bramlett via SportsandRec 
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello Joseph,
>>>
>>> Braille compasses are available through blindness companies; I think 
>>> Independent Living aids has them and the NFB Independence Market.
>>> I would guess talking compasses can be bought too there.
>>>
>>> Yes, the Victor Trek is still being made. There is also a new stand 
>>> alone device from Humanware for GPS.
>>> Its real expensive though but if you can afford it or have support 
>>> to buy it, the device has cameras to OCR  print and also take 
>>> pictures of the environment. It’s the Stellar Trek. The Stellar Trek 
>>> also uses artificial intelligence to describe the environment.
>>> I'm not sure about landmarks with it. I do not know how useful it 
>>> would be at a camp site or trail. That is a good question for 
>>> Humanware staff.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 4:12 PM
>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>> Cc: Joseph Bundy
>>> Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails
>>>
>>> I been trying to find a brialle or talking compass
>>>
>>> On 1/25/23, Joseph Bundy <joseph.bundy92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do they still make the trek?
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/23, Tom Evans via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I think and please don’t quote me but the victor reader track, you 
>>>>> can set up your own markings as in your tent site is here and the 
>>>>> trail is here or like at a university your favorite meeting place 
>>>>> with friends is here.
>>>>> Yet
>>>>> you first have to get there. Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Nella Foster via SportsandRec 
>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I am so sad about Sound Scape.  It is the one I have been 
>>>>>> using most.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nella
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: SportsandRec <sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:23 PM
>>>>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List 
>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nella,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I've historically used is Microsoft Soundscape, but it's no 
>>>>>> longer available for download and will no longer be operational 
>>>>>> at all in June.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have some programmer friends who are working on rebuilding it, 
>>>>>> but that's a heavy lift. I'll keep you informed. Otherwise I 
>>>>>> don't know of anything suitable for large, outdoor spaces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/25/23, Nella Foster via SportsandRec 
>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also depending on how far out you are, you may not have cell service.
>>>>>>> This can be a real issue if you have an emergency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have done quite a lot of hiking over the years and some of the 
>>>>>>> trails are almost impossible to follow without some sighted 
>>>>>>> assistance.  Heavy rains can wash out trails and make them even 
>>>>>>> harder to follow.  I find it easier to feel the trails with my 
>>>>>>> cane during the summer when the vegetation is thicker.  Well, 
>>>>>>> that is true now that I live in Missouri.  I used to live in 
>>>>>>> Arizona and there was a lot less vegetation.  You really didn't 
>>>>>>> want to bump into some of the vegetation in Arizona. Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I currently live in walking distance of a several hundred acre park.
>>>>>>> It has many rather easy hiking trails, but it is hard for me to 
>>>>>>> follow them with my cane, they tend to curve around and join up 
>>>>>>> with lots of different trails.
>>>>>>> There are a few gravel roads that go through the park for park 
>>>>>>> employee use.
>>>>>>> I am able to feel these roads with my cane and stay on them.  I 
>>>>>>> do walk to the park and walk on the gravel roads by myself.  
>>>>>>> Someday I hope to learn a couple of the hiking trails, there is 
>>>>>>> one that goes along the creek that I would like to be able to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious to know if there are certain GPS apps that people 
>>>>>>> are using for hiking and other outdoor experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nella
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: SportsandRec <sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>>> Of Tom Evans via SportsandRec
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 12:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List 
>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Tom Evans <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cited or unsighted it would never be recommended to go on your 
>>>>>>> own. I used to work on a mountain rescue team and the multiple 
>>>>>>> amounts of problems that there were. For one simple reason if 
>>>>>>> something happens to you then how to notify others. This isn’t 
>>>>>>> the beginning of a close call… Cited or non-cited it would not 
>>>>>>> be recommended to go on your own
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via 
>>>>>>>> SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Located in central Oklahoma. No specific wants other than 
>>>>>>>> local. For hiking, I'd use my usual long, rigid cane and an 
>>>>>>>> equally long or longer trekking pole. I will definitely be 
>>>>>>>> going alone or with another totally blind person.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/23, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec 
>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Where are you located? Are you wanting something easy hard?
>>>>>>>>> Anything
>>>>>>>>> particular you want in the camping area? I usually research or 
>>>>>>>>> ask people i know about places or ask them to describe 
>>>>>>>>> something from photos. Usually we got to places they been or 
>>>>>>>>> have good ptotos and reviews. I don't know how much vission 
>>>>>>>>> you have but if not much or none, i wouldn't go hiking alone 
>>>>>>>>> especially for the fist time. i haven't done it much but would 
>>>>>>>>> hate to go on a trail and discover a drop off the hard way. I 
>>>>>>>>> know some good places if you want to discuss places.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec 
>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I need to spend more time in nature. How do you folks 
>>>>>>>>>> choose/locate campsites and hiking trails for the first time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
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>>>>>>>>> gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone 
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>>>>
>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
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>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for 
>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to 
>>>> the Greek.-Romans 1:16 The only thing worse than being blind is 
>>>> having sight but no vision. — Helen Keller
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>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for 
>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the 
>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16 The only thing worse than being blind is having 
>>> sight but no vision. — Helen Keller
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>> Joseph S. Bundy
>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
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>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for 
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>> Greek.-Romans 1:16 The only thing worse than being blind is having 
>> sight but no vision. — Helen Keller
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