[stylist] rollerball cane tips

Sun Nov 16 22:12:47 UTC 2008

thanks Robert,
I forwarded that to the mother in our chapter.  I know she will find 
it quite interesting.

however, is it better to do Turkish dancing with fiberglass, 
carbon-fiber, or folding?
jc

Jim Canaday M.A.
Lawrence, KS

At 08:56 AM 11/16/2008, you wrote:
>Jim
>
>You had a couple of questions- First, "....mother of blind child asked about
>carbon fiber solid (nonfolding) canes.  what do you think of those?..."
>They are good, I've used one in the past. I don't use it now. My thoughts
>are this- first it is stiff and I am not use to that. The stiffness may not
>be a bad thing, but  it felt different enough that I felt ... That it was
>not my most favorite. (someone could get use to that difference.) Again, the
>stiffness changed how it vibrates and how it sounds. And the kicker for me
>about not buying another, is that it breaks just as easy as a fiberglass
>cane, but costs much more. And so after a couple of months of use it did get
>broken and I didn't replace it. (I bet I do not have to replace a cane ...
>Not every year. More times than not, the car door is what will break mine.)
>
>I do have a 12 year old boy that I work with. And for a while he was using a
>folding carbon fiber and after he broke the fourth one, his parents stopped
>buying them. (They cost something like $35.00)
>
>The second question- Was about a book on the history of the blind using
>canes. And I'm thinking someone could do a search on that and see if it has
>been done. Otherwise, that would be an interesting doc to read.
>
>
>Robert Leslie Newman
>Email- newmanrl at cox.net
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of James Canaday M.A. N6YR
>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:35 PM
>To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
>
>that is very well written.
>one would think you a professional in writing and mobility!
>I did the "knowledge base for today's chapter meeting.  brought in my
>rollerblah cane and my old fiberglass.  I made the point you did about
>lighter is better for safety and control.
>mother of blind child asked about carbon fiber solid (nonfolding) canes.
>what do you think of those?  I have no experience.
>I also made the point that lighter made the cane more sensitive to what  is
>at the tip to be detected.
>was a five to seven minute presentation, much more than that then in
>questions and discussion.
>
>robert it made my mind wander too: when did canes first get used by blind
>people?  is there a book on the history of the cane?  if not, maybe we need
>to write one.
>
>jc
>
>Jim Canaday M.A.
>Lawrence, KS
>
>At 04:18 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
> >On this bit about a tip getting stuck and the blind traveler gets stuck
> >in the stomach, that has not happened to me for years, if not for
> >decades.  And here is why ... When I extend my cane out in front, I am
> >holding it in a modified pencil grip, the palm of my hand is nearly
> >angled down toward the floor. Visualize this,  the grip and wrist
> >action is similar to what you do when you are picking up a chess piece
> >and are placing it down on the chess board. And yes, it is my fingers
> >that are doing the duty of carrying the weight of my cane (I always
> >choose the lightest fiber glass cane I can find). Also, because of this
> >type of grip, the shaft of the cane is at more of an up right angle and
> >because that in a since has shortened the distance that my cane will be
> >out in front of me, I then compensate and regain that distance by
> >having my arm extended out at full length with just a little bend at
> >the elbow. Then visualize this part, my hand and of course the canes handle
>are held up at mid to upper chest level.
> >
> >The positive results that I have found by this method is- first, with
> >the tip and cane shaft held at that angle , it does not catch on as
> >many obstacles. Second, with the cane being held out in front of me by
> >a good 20 to 25 inches, I have more room and time to extricate it if
> >and when it does catch. Third, by holding the cane in this fashion, I
> >have more control on where I place the tip.
> >
> >
> >Robert Leslie Newman
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of Angela fowler
> >Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:42 PM
> >To: 'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'
> >Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> >
> >Has she ever used a roller tip? It rolls nicely from side to side,
> >granted, but it doesn't role forward. It is when it is moved forward
> >that it gets stuck.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> >Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:39 PM
> >To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> >
> >Her explanation was that the roller ball tip doesn't get stuck.  It
> >just glides over stuff whereas the regular tip gets stuck and jabs you
> >in the stomach.
> >Barbara
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
> >Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:50 PM
> >To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> >Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> >
> > > Yep, my mobility instructor gave me one when I was a kid, although I
> > > fail to understand how kids can't be just as successful and actually
> > > more successful with an NFB cane or a rainshine.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:12 PM
> > > To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> > >
> > > I wonder if they came up with those to "help the little chidren be
> > > successful with their canes"?  I've a friend whose daughter's
> > > mobility instructor gave her one for just that purpose.  I refuse to
> > > let anyone give one to my children.
> > > Barbara
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:43 PM
> > > To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> > >
> > >> Jim, so glad you're getting better.
> > >> Yes, those roller tips aren't all they're cracked up to be. I gave
> > >> my old folding cane away a long time ago, someone was desperate,
> > >> and haven't missed it a bit.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >> [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >> On Behalf Of James Canaday M.A. N6YR
> > >> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 5:40 PM
> > >> To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
> > >> Subject: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> > >>
> > >> hello friends,
> > >> I'm going back to a previous discussion we had regarding canes and
> > >> cane tips.
> > >> the replacement tips I had ordered for my cane were wrong,
> > >> rainshine instead of the standard metal glide tip and I could not
> > >> get the rainshine on my solid fiberglass cane.
> > >> I had a trip downtown this afternoon and thus was forced to use
> > >> what I call my "dress cane" because it looks nice, doesn't appear
> > >> to have survived a nuclear blast.  problem is it is a folding cane,
> > >> probably three times the weight, and made of graphite.  it was
> > >> given by a state functionary.  my "dress cane" has a rolling tip.
> > >> after walking with it downtown on some familiar sidewalks, I can
> > >> conclusively report that it doesn't communicate nearly so much
> > >> detail as my solid, light, metal glide tipped, cane.  I tried
> > >> tapping (harder with heavier cane) and even tried some of the
>rollerball
> > >> technique.    so, I'm getting metal glide tips ASAP.
> > >>
> > >> one note, during my trip downtown I had to take cover under the
> > >> awning of the newspaper/cable-TV/ISP because it was hailing
> > >> pea-sized
> >hail.
> > >> hail presents its own travel problems, chiefly the pain and the noise.
> > >>
> > >> and to those who have been praying for me, I am getting better.
> > >> thank you and thank God.
> > >>
> > >> jc
> > >>
> > >> Jim Canaday M.A.
> > >> Lawrence, KS
> > >>
> > >>
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