[stylist] rollerball cane tips

Sun Nov 16 14:56:16 UTC 2008

Jim 

You had a couple of questions- First, "....mother of blind child asked about
carbon fiber solid (nonfolding) canes.  what do you think of those?..."   
They are good, I've used one in the past. I don't use it now. My thoughts
are this- first it is stiff and I am not use to that. The stiffness may not
be a bad thing, but  it felt different enough that I felt ... That it was
not my most favorite. (someone could get use to that difference.) Again, the
stiffness changed how it vibrates and how it sounds. And the kicker for me
about not buying another, is that it breaks just as easy as a fiberglass
cane, but costs much more. And so after a couple of months of use it did get
broken and I didn't replace it. (I bet I do not have to replace a cane ...
Not every year. More times than not, the car door is what will break mine.) 

I do have a 12 year old boy that I work with. And for a while he was using a
folding carbon fiber and after he broke the fourth one, his parents stopped
buying them. (They cost something like $35.00) 

The second question- Was about a book on the history of the blind using
canes. And I'm thinking someone could do a search on that and see if it has
been done. Otherwise, that would be an interesting doc to read.

Robert Leslie Newman 
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-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of James Canaday M.A. N6YR
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:35 PM
To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips

that is very well written.
one would think you a professional in writing and mobility!
I did the "knowledge base for today's chapter meeting.  brought in my
rollerblah cane and my old fiberglass.  I made the point you did about
lighter is better for safety and control.
mother of blind child asked about carbon fiber solid (nonfolding) canes.
what do you think of those?  I have no experience.
I also made the point that lighter made the cane more sensitive to what  is
at the tip to be detected.
was a five to seven minute presentation, much more than that then in
questions and discussion.

robert it made my mind wander too: when did canes first get used by blind
people?  is there a book on the history of the cane?  if not, maybe we need
to write one.

jc

Jim Canaday M.A.
Lawrence, KS

At 04:18 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
>On this bit about a tip getting stuck and the blind traveler gets stuck 
>in the stomach, that has not happened to me for years, if not for 
>decades.  And here is why ... When I extend my cane out in front, I am 
>holding it in a modified pencil grip, the palm of my hand is nearly 
>angled down toward the floor. Visualize this,  the grip and wrist 
>action is similar to what you do when you are picking up a chess piece 
>and are placing it down on the chess board. And yes, it is my fingers 
>that are doing the duty of carrying the weight of my cane (I always 
>choose the lightest fiber glass cane I can find). Also, because of this 
>type of grip, the shaft of the cane is at more of an up right angle and 
>because that in a since has shortened the distance that my cane will be 
>out in front of me, I then compensate and regain that distance by 
>having my arm extended out at full length with just a little bend at 
>the elbow. Then visualize this part, my hand and of course the canes handle
are held up at mid to upper chest level.
>
>The positive results that I have found by this method is- first, with 
>the tip and cane shaft held at that angle , it does not catch on as 
>many obstacles. Second, with the cane being held out in front of me by 
>a good 20 to 25 inches, I have more room and time to extricate it if 
>and when it does catch. Third, by holding the cane in this fashion, I 
>have more control on where I place the tip.
>
>
>Robert Leslie Newman
>Email- newmanrl at cox.net
>THOUGHT PROVOKER Website-
>Http://www.thoughtprovoker.info
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>Behalf Of Angela fowler
>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:42 PM
>To: 'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
>
>Has she ever used a roller tip? It rolls nicely from side to side, 
>granted, but it doesn't role forward. It is when it is moved forward 
>that it gets stuck.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:39 PM
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>Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
>
>Her explanation was that the roller ball tip doesn't get stuck.  It 
>just glides over stuff whereas the regular tip gets stuck and jabs you 
>in the stomach.
>Barbara
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:50 PM
>To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
>
> > Yep, my mobility instructor gave me one when I was a kid, although I 
> > fail to understand how kids can't be just as successful and actually 
> > more successful with an NFB cane or a rainshine.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:12 PM
> > To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> >
> > I wonder if they came up with those to "help the little chidren be 
> > successful with their canes"?  I've a friend whose daughter's 
> > mobility instructor gave her one for just that purpose.  I refuse to 
> > let anyone give one to my children.
> > Barbara
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:43 PM
> > To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> >
> >> Jim, so glad you're getting better.
> >> Yes, those roller tips aren't all they're cracked up to be. I gave 
> >> my old folding cane away a long time ago, someone was desperate, 
> >> and haven't missed it a bit.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> >> [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of James Canaday M.A. N6YR
> >> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 5:40 PM
> >> To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
> >> Subject: [stylist] rollerball cane tips
> >>
> >> hello friends,
> >> I'm going back to a previous discussion we had regarding canes and 
> >> cane tips.
> >> the replacement tips I had ordered for my cane were wrong, 
> >> rainshine instead of the standard metal glide tip and I could not 
> >> get the rainshine on my solid fiberglass cane.
> >> I had a trip downtown this afternoon and thus was forced to use 
> >> what I call my "dress cane" because it looks nice, doesn't appear 
> >> to have survived a nuclear blast.  problem is it is a folding cane, 
> >> probably three times the weight, and made of graphite.  it was 
> >> given by a state functionary.  my "dress cane" has a rolling tip.
> >> after walking with it downtown on some familiar sidewalks, I can 
> >> conclusively report that it doesn't communicate nearly so much 
> >> detail as my solid, light, metal glide tipped, cane.  I tried 
> >> tapping (harder with heavier cane) and even tried some of the
rollerball
> >> technique.    so, I'm getting metal glide tips ASAP.
> >>
> >> one note, during my trip downtown I had to take cover under the 
> >> awning of the newspaper/cable-TV/ISP because it was hailing 
> >> pea-sized
>hail.
> >> hail presents its own travel problems, chiefly the pain and the noise.
> >>
> >> and to those who have been praying for me, I am getting better.
> >> thank you and thank God.
> >>
> >> jc
> >>
> >> Jim Canaday M.A.
> >> Lawrence, KS
> >>
> >>
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