[stylist] descriminative against voices.

Sun Oct 26 15:08:11 UTC 2008

Deaf blind people amaze me. My friend Francisco can't speak at all, and it 
bothers me greatly that a lot of people dismiss him for that reason. by no 
means do I know sign language, but I can finger spell. It is amusing, my 
braille skills are equilivent to his signing skills, and his braille skills 
to my signing. See neither of us are fulent in the other. He just started 
learning braille a few years ago, and unfortunately, due to the problems in 
our district has not recieved proper instruction. Between our brailling and 
signing we manage to communicate. It's sweet actually. We've known each 
other since third grade, but I moved away from California my fourth grade 
year, and didn't see him again until my freshman year. He can't talk, but he 
plays soccer, is the best student in his wood shop class, and loves dogs. 
And, he'll tell you just that if you give him the chance. *smile*
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
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Subject: Re: [stylist] descriminative against voices.


>I lived across the street from a deaf couple.  I understood Mary, the wife, 
>and she responded in our conversations because she could read lips.  I know 
>another young woman who is amazing!  For whatever reason, I was in the 
>library one day.  All of a sudden I hear, "Hello Mrs. Bron."  She knows I 
>am visually impaired.  She said, "It's Hannah."  Sure enough, that is who I 
>was talking to.  She was the best friend of my friend's daughter.  Since 
>then, she has gotten married and had a few kids.  She works in a high level 
>job somewhere.  She went through college and graduated.  I guess the 
>ability to talk in the deaf world is similar to talking in the hearing 
>world.  If a person has been educated and exposed to a higher level of 
>English, that is what you will hear in conversation.  If the person 
>survived on the streets with a low level of speech, that is what the person 
>will speak.  I am not familiar with the deaf/blind world.  I never had 
>exposure.  Judith
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> From: "helene ryles" <dreamavdb at googlemail.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:40 PM
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>> I'm just curious here. What do blind people make of 'deaf' voice. I
>> mean the way some deaf people speak when they are born with a
>> severe/profound hearing loss and have to spend a lot of time being
>> taught how to speak? I'm told I have a really good voice but I wasn't
>> born profoundly deaf and it can't be that good because sometimes when
>> I speak I find it hard to get people to know what I am talking about.
>>
>> Helene.
>>
>> On 26/10/2008, Aziza <acwaterreader09 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "James Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] descriminative against voices.
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>>>
>>>> Aziza,
>>>> being a man, I will tell you that certain women's voices I find much 
>>>> more
>>>> attractive.  I did learn long ago that determining someone's race is 
>>>> not
>>>> so reliable when you're listening to them speak.
>>>> I've forwarded your message to my wife, the voice teacher.
>>>> jc
>>>>
>>>> Jim Canaday M.A.
>>>> Lawrence, KS
>>>>
>>>> At 09:58 PM 10/25/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>Aziza, I don't have any books for you, but from personal experience I 
>>>>>can
>>>>>say the answer to your question is unfortunately yes. Since a blind
>>>>>person's
>>>>>"first look" at someone is his voice, it Is from that which we rush to 
>>>>>our
>>>>>snap judgment, and by which we do our foolish stereotyping.
>>>>>
>>>>>You may be hard pressed to find books to answer your question. Can you 
>>>>>use
>>>>>research and interviews?
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>Behalf Of Aziza
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:39 PM
>>>>>To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>Subject: [stylist] descriminative against voices.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone,
>>>>>I was wondering if anyone wouldhappen to have any suggestions of book 
>>>>>that
>>>>>would have any information on the possibility that blind people are
>>>>>descriminative against voices. I'm writing a research project, and my
>>>>>question is, are blind people descriminative against voices much in the
>>>>>same
>>>>>way that sighted people can be descriminative against looks. I need to
>>>>>find
>>>>>two books that can shed light on this matter. I need to summarize 3 
>>>>>points
>>>>>from each book in my project.
>>>>>Thanks guys.
>>>>>Aziza
>>>>>
>>>>>
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