[stylist] Using titles to refer to people

Thu Apr 2 14:45:16 UTC 2009

Or really earned the honorary degree that was bestowed onhim.  He really, 
really, gave a lot to the blind community.  He was really, really admired. 
Even honorary degrees aren't handed out like candy.  If one is bestowed it 
was earned.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Lee Clark" <johnlee at clarktouch.com>
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Using titles to refer to people


> When you call Dr. Mauer Doctor, it's like over-reassuring him that he's
> really, really, really handsome.  Or really, really, really smart.  Or
> really, really, really cool.  But the problem is that it's overstatement,
> which automatically has its backlash.  In the end, it's really
> disrespectful.  And remember, it's not even real, his title.  Only in
> England do they adopt titles and take it seriously, Lady Angela.  We here 
> in
> your beloved country are grown-up people--or I thought so!  Smile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angela fowler
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:31 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Using titles to refer to people
>
> Well, admittedly I wouldn't want to be called Doctor either, and I don't
> call my professors with PHD's Doctor. When we refer to Dr. Maurer, like 
> Lori
> said, it's a term of respect.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of John Lee Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Using titles to refer to people
>
> Angela:
>
> No, I would be offended by the title.  It might be okay to put Ph.D next 
> to
> my name for certain documents related to my work, such as if I teach at
> college, and my name is on the website.
>
> But Doctor or Dr.?  No way.  That's pretentious.  Only the wannabes would
> want that.  Or those who have serious insecurity issues, and they use big
> words to make sure everyone knows they're smart, and they use every
> opportunity to mention their doctoral degree . .  Yuck!
>
> John
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angela fowler
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:38 PM
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>
> Well, since you put it that way, if you write a doctorial thesis, which 
> I'm
> told is many many pages of very dry structured writing, you disserve to be
> called Doctor.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:07 PM
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>
> I think that if you have earned that allusive and prestidgous title, then
> you have the right to use it whenever you so desire.  As a matter of fact,
> you should.  Hell, if I had it, I would be putting Dr. Williams on
> everything.  Boy Dr. Williams has a nice ring to it.  Maybe I just go and
> get me one of them there PHds.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angela fowler
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:46 PM
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> Subject: [stylist] Using titles to refer to people
>
> Most people who have PHDs are referred to as Doctor. I think you're 
> reading
> way too much into it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of John Lee Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Heroes of the blind community
>
> Hey, all:
>
> I notice NFB's tendency to take pains to refer to people with doctorates 
> as
> Dr.  Am I to read into this a kind of inferiority complex and if you have 
> a
> doctorate you make sure it is known and touted?
>
> If so, Ii recommend scrapping this altogether.  You may think it builds
> credibility, but the fact you mention Dr. at all suggests it is SPECIAL 
> for
> a blind person.  But it shouldn't be considered special, but only a matter
> of course--of course you've got a whole colony of blind doctors!  Even if
> you don't have that many, it's good to be nonchalant about it.
>
> But I can sympathize.  The Deaf community used to make a big deal of the
> title Dr. but that was back in the 1930s.  Nowadays, Deaf Ph.Ds are common
> as dirt.
>
> But I make this suggestion only from the perspective of language
> manipulation.  Understatements are better than overstatements.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of LoriStay at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:16 AM
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Heroes of the blind community
>
> Start with the leaders:   Louis Braille, Dr. Jacobus tenBroek, Dr. Kenneth
> Jernigan, and many other leaders from NFB.
> Lori
> In a message dated 3/31/09 11:59:04 PM, jbron at optonline.net writes:
>
>
>>
>> >> Who are the biggest legendary figures or heroes of the blind 
>> >> community?
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
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