[stylist] The two list idea

Wed Apr 8 00:51:44 UTC 2009

FYI Helene:

While I understand your desire -- as the "keeper of the lists" it is 
extremely unlikely that I would start one just to discuss 
politics.  I don't think it serves any purpose, and it can do us no 
good.  We need to work on what unites us, not what separates us.  We 
have members from all political persuasions but blindness brings us 
together, and is where we concentrate.

David Andrews, List Owner

At 11:45 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
>Judith,
>Yes, of course there are lists for politics but I was interested in
>discussing politics amongst other NFB members and at present there is
>no list for that.
>
>How does one do a vote for 2 lists?
>
>Helene
>
>On 07/04/2009, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> > Ap present the search feature for the archives is broken, and is some
> > work to fix, so isn't done yet.  You can view the archives one month
> > at a time, and sort messages by sender, date, or subject.    Go to
> > nfbnet.org and choose the second link.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 05:39 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
> >>Is there an easy way to view a days posts by subject in the archives?
> >>
> >>I have used nfbnet interface before and not had a lot of luck with finding
> >>things that posters had said were in the archives because they had been
> >>discussed thoroughly before.
> >>
> >>Daily digest does not work for me because you can't sort the messages by
> >>subject for easy skipping.
> >>
> >>Just looking for a good way to find the items relevant to me on this list.
> >>My delete key is apparently not very effective or I simply lack the skills
> >>to use it properly.
> >>
> >>Cindy
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> > [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Lee Clark
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:40 PM
> >> > To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
> >> > Subject: Re: [stylist] The two list idea
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am wondering if the situation here is that those who don't
> >> > want high traffic is holding this list hostage.  That shows
> >> > unhealthy boundaries.  Why don't THEY set up a new list
> >> > that's designed to be low-traffic?
> >> >
> >> > You understand, I don't want to be on two lists and think
> >> > which one to post something new and you can be sure I don't
> >> > want to "move" something from one to the other.
> >> >
> >> > I apologize for taking part in the politics discussions from
> >> > two or three weeks ago, but otherwise I think we've been
> >> > really, really good with the topics' relevance.  So I think
> >> > the real complaint here is about volume, not topic.
> >> >
> >> > If it was really about topic, there shouldn't be any
> >> > objections.  The objuections are about volume.  Don't blame
> >> > the topic for this, because so many things go deep hand in
> >> > hand with writing itself.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> > [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James
> >> > Canaday M.A. N6YR
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:12 PM
> >> > To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> >> > Subject: Re: [stylist] The two list idea
> >> >
> >> > list members,
> >> > I feel strongly about this  and vote for the two list
> >> > solution. the way stylist was functioning until ten days ago,
> >> > there was
> >> > frequently some humor, and if someone asked a question such as "would
> >> > anyone choose to be blind" these were welcomed.
> >> > we discussed cane technique, and many many other nonwriting topics
> >> > but we discussed them as writers.
> >> > as we are supporters and members of NFB, we should be the first ones
> >> > to be willing to write about blindness issues from our personal
> >> > perspectives, if we choose.
> >> >
> >> > personally I think we should continue to avoid politics.  and if we
> >> > discuss religion, we should only do it with respect and  mutuality.
> >> >
> >> > Since the freedom to have humor and chat is so offensive to some
> >> > long-term members of stylist, this way they would still have their
> >> > list as a quiet low-traffic list.  and we could post on the high
> >> > traffic list without always feeling like we have to look behind.
> >> >
> >> > I've seen lists that used tags and they often work well.  however
> >> > some of the objectors comments indicate they are tired of using their
> >> > delete key and the use of tags wouldn't help this.
> >> >
> >> > on both lists it is important that we keep an eye on the subject
> >> > lines.  I've been guilty of that too, hitting reply without updating
> >> > the subject line.
> >> >
> >> > I also want to add that I know Robert's heart  is full of concern to
> >> > do  right by this Division.  I think a two list solution is the best
> >> > option.
> >> > jc
> >> >
> >> > Jim Canaday M.A.
> >> > Lawrence, KS
> >> >
> >> > At 04:38 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote:
> >> > >STYLIST members, I wish to revisit this idea of having two
> >> > lists. One
> >> > >would be STYLIST and it would be primarily for writing
> >> > topics only. And
> >> > >the
> >> > second
> >> > >would be for all other and more chatty types of topics and
> >> > I'd call it
> >> > >Writers Chat. What we would have to do, is monitor ourselves in the
> >> > >light
> >> > of
> >> > >(besides doing the writing stuff on STYLIST and the chatty on the WC
> >> > >list), but if for example on the chatty list, if you get
> >> > into writing
> >> > >issues/topics, then you get those posts back onto STYLIST. Again, we
> >> > >can do this, give it a try, try and honor the rules and watch it so
> >> > >that neither list goes stale or even dead.
> >> > >
> >> > >So any discussion?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Robert Leslie Newman
> >> > >Email- newmanrl at cox.net
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