[stylist] question

Thu Mar 26 01:33:19 UTC 2009

Point wel made.  

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From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Angela fowler
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] question

Well, I won't say that its OK to be rude right back, but sometimes it is
understandable. We go through a kind of martyrdom I think sometimes, because
we are a small minority of the population the actions of one reflect on all.
Its not fair, but it's the truth. Sometimes we snap, and people's lack of
understanding of what we have to deal with sometimes makes them judge us
unfairly.  

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] question

It's hard to be polite all the time, and despite the saying kill them with
kindness, it's hard to honor that in every situation.  Sometimes, people
deserve to receive some of their own medicine.  Also, it feels good to just
tell them what they need to hear.  There are times when it is okay to be
rude right back.  Sometimes, when it is reflected back at them, they get the
picture.  I had that happen to me just last weekend.    -----Original
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From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Alan Wheeler
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] question

Judith,
I start to care, though, when people associate the fact that my eyes don't
work with being the same as my brain not working.  Know what I mean?  For
some sighted people blindness = stupidity, and that bothers me.  My eyes
can't see, but my brain can still think.  So, when people treat me like both
my brain and my eyes don't work, I tend to struggle with how to respond at
times.  The overwhelming majority of the time, I am kind about it.  There
are those moments I find myself thinking that dealing with a particular
individual is a total wash.  I am not saying I am right for feeeling that
way, because I am not.  It's just my human nature rearing its head is all.

In Christ,
Alan

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 02:45
Subject: Re: [stylist] question

> John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being sighted is
better 
> than being blind.  Terms like "visually impaired", "Visually challenged"
or 
> any of the like are legislated terms.  I can't see any better or worse
when 
> a bureaucrat describes my visual limitations.  I am what I am.  Like I
said 
> before, I have to take those limitations, do the best I can to do what I
am 
> capable of and continue striving to be the best me I can be.  I don't care

> how society looks at my limitations.  And, yes, they are limitations.  I 
> have to be the one to deal with them.  Almost every person in this world
has 
> limitations.  Some can create beautiful artwork, some can't.  Some can
write 
> beautifully, some can't put together a cognizant statement either verbally

> or in writing.  Some have athletic prowess while others are happy being 
> couch potatoes.  Some love to eat while others are skinny and physically
fit 
> their entire life.  All "problems", all "limitations" when put in the 
> perspective of the optimum and people all over the world live with them 
> every day.  When was the last time you heard of the "art impaired" person?

> Or the person who can't sing one note without causing distress to the
other 
> person's eardrums?  Are there cultures for the tone deaf?  The person who 
> can't draw a straight line?  John, deal with John.  Society has enough 
> problems.  As a society we have a lot to deal with, but making John
socially 
> comfortable isn't one of them.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Lee Clark" <johnlee at clarktouch.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
> 
> 
>> Lori:
>>
>> I love the words blind and deaf.  I abhor anything with impaired in it.
>>
>> Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and that's a
>> negative description, we still have the opportunity to neutralize the
word
>> itself and have it convey something else entirely, into something that's
>> cool.  Same with deaf.  We can take it and turn it around, and associate 
>> it
>> with culture, pride, ASL, all sorts of great and positive things.
>>
>> But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight impaired. 
>> Tthat
>> term does two very bad, bad, bad things.  First, it implies that sight is
>> the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, and that if we don't
>> have it, we SHOULD want it.  This is society talking, "Sight is better."
>>
>> Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of the ideal,
or
>> we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal.  This is very
>> bad, bad, bad.
>>
>> Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind?  It shouldn't.  it should
embrace
>> it absolutely.
>>
>> John
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