[stylist] question

[Judith Bron]

Barbara, What you are rightfully pointing out is merely the reflection of 
society in general.  It is the "I" centered philosophy that works until most 
of society is a pack of wild animals with no self discipline.  This is the 
direction we have been going since the sixties.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
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> No. What you really have out there are parents who have no parameters for 
> their children but they waste every teachable moment by ignoring the 
> children because their own life is o so much more important.
> Barbara
>
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>> Judith:
>>
>> Unschooling doesn't result in kids growing up into adults who act like 
>> they
>> can get anything they want.  Life itself has very clear and fixed 
>> parameters
>> that my boys go up against every day, as as we all humans do, they cope 
>> with
>> this reality.
>>
>> Because of this, my boys are very reasonable and sensible boys. 
>> Sometimes
>> they'd want something that's beyond our budget.  What we do is have them 
>> be
>> aware of the simple, real truth that we don't have the money.  Then we
>> sympathize with their desire to get it.  I want some things I can't 
>> afford,
>> too, so I genuinely empathize.  Then we discuss how we might still get 
>> it,
>> by saving, or by saving and looking for an used one instead of new.  This 
>> is
>> a great opportunity for them to make choices.  All of my boys have saved 
>> up
>> for stuff, and they are actually better than Adrean and I are with our 
>> own
>> savings.
>>
>> Yes, many parents who don't use this complete mindful parenting approach
>> will surely find they have to set artificial parameters and rules.
>> Unschooling in part, mixed with the Victorian traditions, doesn't work,
>> because the premises are totally different.
>>
>> What does often contribute to adults acting most irresponsibly comes from
>> traditional schooling.  You look at any college, and you'll notice that 
>> the
>> freshmans, well, I won't describe in graphic detail what a great majority 
>> of
>> them do.  Much of the real, actual learning they need to do to cope with
>> real life is delayed until they are out of their parents' houses.  Only 
>> then
>> do they catch up on all what they feel like they've been deprived of, and
>> they experiment madly and wildly, and it's often only then they begin to
>> figure out what they want to do in their lives.
>>
>> Unschooling is not for everyone, as it is a huge investment and requires 
>> a
>> whole shift in everything we do in our lives.  Also, many parents are
>> unwilling to regard their children as who they really are.  Children are
>> often viewed as second-class citizens, or chattel.  Many parents, sadly,
>> treat their friends and guests better than they do their own children. 
>> It's
>> true.
>>
>> No, it doesn't mean we think babies are born fully mature.  But it does 
>> mean
>> we believe they are born fully human with human feelings and deserving of
>> the same respect as we are.
>>
>> I encourage you to Goggle it up.  I am so glad that our Father in Heaven 
>> led
>> us to this, and this has brought much peace and joy to our family.
>>
>> John
>>
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