[stylist] Does anyone want to be blind?

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Fri Mar 27 12:55:36 UTC 2009 

In point of fact I don't think any of us are in a position to judge parents 
who want what they perceive to be better for their child.  The truth is that 
with the proper training a person can function very well if they have the 
proper skills.  In my opinion it is better to function with vision if the 
vision itself does not hamper a fulfilling life.  I wish I read Braille but 
I don't.  Do I sometimes yearn for the days when I picked up a book and read 
it?  You bet.  However, since I never worked a computer without voice I 
can't imagine doing that.  I have no problem dealing with my screen reader. 
Is a doctor right in helping a patient get their vision back?  Yes, if he 
believes there's a chance.  No if he's just spinning his wheals to give a 
patient false hope.  When I lost my sight because of MS my neurologist 
couldn't do anything but give me tranquilizers and sleeping pills.  He 
couldn't refer me to an agency or organization that could help me.  Pretty 
bleak.  I was almost a drug addict when my husband took me to a wonderful 
physician who got me off the junk.  It's all where you are coming from. 
Let's stop passing judgment on those who aren't on trial.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to be blind?


> You're right but some have not as many scruples as others and will do it 
> just because the patient begs.
> Barbara
>
> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of whom 
> you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:42 PM
> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to be blind?
>
>> If they are workink in a medical situation, how do they know that their 
>> treatment won't help?  If they already know that the help is futile than 
>> they shouldn't be administering the help.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to be blind?
>>
>>
>>> The Hippocratic Oath states "first do no wrong".  They are doing wrong 
>>> in many cases because they are giving false hope.  Then again, they are 
>>> just practicing so if one is willing to further their knowledge of what 
>>> works and doesn't, then go for it.
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of 
>>> whom you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:40 AM
>>> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to be blind?
>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should be sending this thread to doctors.  As medical 
>>>> professionals they are committed to saving as much sight as possible. 
>>>> According to this thread some of their treatments and procedures are 
>>>> wrong. Do any of us have the right to tell them not to do what they 
>>>> strive to do? Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "James Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to be blind?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> reading with my one squinty eye gave me headaches too.
>>>>> personally I think far far too often the educrats resort to "sight 
>>>>> saving" techniques when they should push braille and other blindness 
>>>>> methods and skills.
>>>>> jc
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Canaday M.A.
>>>>> Lawrence, KS
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:06 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>Jim: I can identify with that since I was glad to lose the rest of my
>>>>>>hearing for similar reasons. Being presurized into verbal
>>>>>>communication methods that I struggled with with powerful migrane
>>>>>>inducing hearing aids. Phew! I was glad when that was over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Helene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 26/03/2009, James Canaday M.A.  N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > once I became blind I was then taught braille and the audio reading
>>>>>> > methods.  that made reading much much more pleasurable and
>>>>>> > easier!  "sight saving" meant I was reading with my one squinty eye
>>>>>> > peering through jewelers' loop magnification lenses that came down 
>>>>>> > in
>>>>>> > front of my glasses lense.  I would not have gone to college if I 
>>>>>> > had
>>>>>> > not lost my sight at age thirteen.
>>>>>> > jc
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jim Canaday M.A.
>>>>>> > Lawrence, KS
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > At 06:38 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>> >>I wasn't really thinking of people already blind although I've 
>>>>>> >>heard
>>>>>> >>of blind people saying that blindness was the best thing that 
>>>>>> >>happened
>>>>>> >>to them. Wasn't that a line at the end of one of Robert's thought
>>>>>> >>provokers?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>I was thinking more of sighted people with a disorder called BIID
>>>>>> >>where people want to be disabled: Usually amputee's but I've heard
>>>>>> >>some of them wanting to be deaf or blind.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Also I know of someone who was born blind, regained his sight and 
>>>>>> >>is
>>>>>> >>now losing it again due to Glycoma and he says he is glad to be 
>>>>>> >>blind
>>>>>> >>as he says he was meant to be blind.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>As for me, I make deafblindness part of my lifestyle. It's been a
>>>>>> >>concious choice for me to fully embrace being a deafblind person 
>>>>>> >>and
>>>>>> >>move on. It's not easy to begin with, but once one fully adapts 
>>>>>> >>it's
>>>>>> >>no big deal. I believe that humans are a very adaptible species 
>>>>>> >>that
>>>>>> >>can manage perfectly well minus one or two senses. It's not the
>>>>>> >>tragedy that people make of it. It's no worse or better then being
>>>>>> >>sighted. Just differance and it's the differances that are hard at
>>>>>> >>first, not the blindness
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Helene
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>On 25/03/2009, LoriStay at aol.com <LoriStay at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > Not if they aren't there already.   What does wanting have to do 
>>>>>> >> > with
>>>>>> >> > it?
>>>>>> >> > Lori
>>>>>> >> > In a message dated 3/24/09 8:15:48 PM, timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com 
>>>>>> >> > writes:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> does anyone want to be blind?
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > **************
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>>>>>> >> > less. 
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