[stylist] blind realtor/agent?
James Canaday M.A. N6YR
n6yr at sunflower.com
Sat Mar 28 02:57:59 UTC 2009
Frank,
if I'm reading your comments right, there is a realtor in your area
very successful who has low or no vision?
cool.
jc
Jim Canaday M.A.
Lawrence, KS
At 06:47 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
>JC
>
>Thanks for the praise. I know on eother agent in the area
>actually. He has been at the biz far longer and makes more money
>than a federal reserve printing press. The largest challanges
>are not vision related, no marketing is what gets me!
>
>anyway i'm not sure what you mean by blindness methods?
>I mean i can use a cane, read braille, and so forth. But is there a
>method to replace say looking at a pretty girl, or a green tree or
><fill in blank>. I'm not trying to get anyone down and i'm not
>complaining. I've got low vision and i deal but if i could be rid of it...
>
>Frank
>
>
>--- On Thu, 3/26/09, James Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
>
> > From: James Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] consternation! and befuddlement!<sp>
> > To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:24 PM
> > Frank,
> > I don't think blindness is a severe disability, for one
> > thing because there are more intense disabling conditions.
> > in 2000 I acquired congestive heart failure, and it got
> > much worse through 2004. you want disablement, there
> > ya' go. there is nothing like cardiac fatigue, it is
> > mental and physical. and I couldn't walk around the
> > block at the worst.
> >
> > blindness by itself doesn't prevent us from doing many
> > things. and some the goal can be achieved through
> > alternative means.
> > you are right, blindness shapes who we each are as persons.
> > it might make more difference that way than hair color or
> > height. but blindness has good and bad effects, brings
> > strengths and inabilities.
> >
> > I know you are hanging on to your limited vision. but you
> > have not been taught the blindness methods, have you?
> > at least from my experience I think if you tried some of
> > them you would appreciate them and find you could accomplish
> > more.
> > btw, kudos for your independent life and work.
> > would you answer a question I have Frank: with your very
> > low vision, how does that interact with being a realtor? do
> > you or anybody else know any blind realtors?
> > jc
> >
> > Jim Canaday M.A.
> > Lawrence, KS
> >
> > At 05:08 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote:
> >
> > > Pardon but i'm still hugely confused.
> > Blindness is not a sever disability? I guess that boils
> > down to what you mean by disability.
> > >
> > >
> > > For me, can i function with my poor sight? yes
> > > has it been a major factor in making me who i am
> > today? yes
> > > Have i adapted? yes
> > >
> > > If a surgeon offered me a safe ethical procedure to
> > repair all damage and give me 20/20 vision, would i take it?
> > Good grief yes!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 3/26/09, helene ryles
> > <dreamavdb at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: helene ryles
> > <dreamavdb at googlemail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to be
> > blind?
> > > > To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing
> > List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 11:43 AM
> > > > Judith and Alan:
> > > > Thanks for the advise. Dad was better then he was
> > last
> > > > year, but there
> > > > is still a long way to go. I've accepted
> > blindness.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I think doctor's have got it wrong. I
> > think that
> > > > they see
> > > > blindness as something to be cured from (if
> > possible)
> > > > because their
> > > > perseption of blindness is of a severe disability
> > which it
> > > > isn't. With
> > > > the right kind of training a blind person only
> > has a minor
> > > > disability
> > > > not a severe one.
> > > >
> > > > Say take a child who is born with ROP who has
> > EVERYTHING
> > > > done to save
> > > > what little vision they've got. They spend
> > their
> > > > childhood struggling
> > > > with very severe sight loss but since the parents
> > put such
> > > > a lot of
> > > > effort into saving that little sight, they want
> > the child
> > > > to be as
> > > > 'normal' as possible which means no
> > braille, no no
> > > > cane. That kid is
> > > > relying on their weakest sense. Then their retina
> > detaches
> > > > itself
> > > > completely. They are no longer at the stage where
> > braille
> > > > can be
> > > > learnt quite as easily. They are say in 11th
> > grade and are
> > > > supposed to
> > > > be studying but now they have this problem of not
> > being
> > > > able use
> > > > vision any more. Having to learn braille by
> > touch. Having
> > > > to learn
> > > > long cane, all that on top of studying. If they
> > fail then
> > > > they might
> > > > blame this on the sight lose, but that
> > wouldn't be
> > > > true. They failed
> > > > because the family and their doctor clung too
> > much on their
> > > > sight. So
> > > > once it went. Their whole way of life went too.
> > > >
> > > > If Their parents hadn't done that. Hadn't
> > spent so
> > > > much time and
> > > > effort at the eye doctors to make the child have
> > better
> > > > vision. Put
> > > > all that effort into learning braille, long cane,
> > daily
> > > > living etc...
> > > > They really wouldn't have needed to fail.
> > > >
> > > > Of course a 3rd option could have been to have
> > the best of
> > > > both
> > > > worlds. But that's another problem. The fact
> > that so
> > > > few low vision
> > > > kids learn braille or other blind skills.
> > > >
> > > > Helene.
> > > >
> > > > On 26/03/2009, Judith Bron
> > <jbron at optonline.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Perhaps we should be sending this thread to
> > doctors.
> > > > As medical
> > > > > professionals they are committed to saving
> > as much
> > > > sight as possible.
> > > > > According to this thread some of their
> > treatments and
> > > > procedures are wrong.
> > > > > Do any of us have the right to tell them not
> > to do
> > > > what they strive to do?
> > > > > Judith
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "James Canaday M.A. N6YR"
> > > > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > > > > To: "NFBnet Writer's Division
> > Mailing
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> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:29 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [stylist] Does anyone want to
> > be blind?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> yes,
> > > > >> reading with my one squinty eye gave me
> > headaches
> > > > too.
> > > > >> personally I think far far too often the
> > educrats
> > > > resort to "sight saving"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> techniques when they should push braille
> > and other
> > > > blindness methods and
> > > > >> skills.
> > > > >> jc
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jim Canaday M.A.
> > > > >> Lawrence, KS
> > > > >>
> > > > >> At 07:06 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >>>Jim: I can identify with that since I
> > was glad
> > > > to lose the rest of my
> > > > >>>hearing for similar reasons. Being
> > presurized
> > > > into verbal
> > > > >>>communication methods that I
> > struggled with
> > > > with powerful migrane
> > > > >>>inducing hearing aids. Phew! I was
> > glad when
> > > > that was over.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Helene
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>On 26/03/2009, James Canaday M.A.
> > N6YR
> > > > <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> > once I became blind I was then
> > taught
> > > > braille and the audio reading
> > > > >>> > methods. that made reading
> > much much
> > > > more pleasurable and
> > > > >>> > easier! "sight
> > saving" meant I
> > > > was reading with my one squinty eye
> > > > >>> > peering through jewelers'
> > loop
> > > > magnification lenses that came down in
> > > > >>> > front of my glasses lense. I
> > would not
> > > > have gone to college if I had
> > > > >>> > not lost my sight at age
> > thirteen.
> > > > >>> > jc
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Jim Canaday M.A.
> > > > >>> > Lawrence, KS
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > At 06:38 PM 3/25/2009, you
> > wrote:
> > > > >>> >>I wasn't really thinking
> > of people
> > > > already blind although I've heard
> > > > >>> >>of blind people saying that
> > blindness
> > > > was the best thing that happened
> > > > >>> >>to them. Wasn't that a
> > line at the
> > > > end of one of Robert's thought
> > > > >>> >>provokers?
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>I was thinking more of
> > sighted people
> > > > with a disorder called BIID
> > > > >>> >>where people want to be
> > disabled:
> > > > Usually amputee's but I've heard
> > > > >>> >>some of them wanting to be
> > deaf or
> > > > blind.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>Also I know of someone who
> > was born
> > > > blind, regained his sight and is
> > > > >>> >>now losing it again due to
> > Glycoma and
> > > > he says he is glad to be blind
> > > > >>> >>as he says he was meant to
> > be blind.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>As for me, I make
> > deafblindness part
> > > > of my lifestyle. It's been a
> > > > >>> >>concious choice for me to
> > fully
> > > > embrace being a deafblind person and
> > > > >>> >>move on. It's not easy
> > to begin
> > > > with, but once one fully adapts it's
> > > > >>> >>no big deal. I believe that
> > humans are
> > > > a very adaptible species that
> > > > >>> >>can manage perfectly well
> > minus one or
> > > > two senses. It's not the
> > > > >>> >>tragedy that people make of
> > it.
> > > > It's no worse or better then being
> > > > >>> >>sighted. Just differance and
> > it's
> > > > the differances that are hard at
> > > > >>> >>first, not the blindness
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>Helene
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>On 25/03/2009,
> > LoriStay at aol.com
> > > > <LoriStay at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> >> > Not if they aren't
> > there
> > > > already. What does wanting have to do
> > > > >>> >> > with
> > > > >>> >> > it?
> > > > >>> >> > Lori
> > > > >>> >> > In a message dated
> > 3/24/09
> > > > 8:15:48 PM, timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com
> > > > >>> >> > writes:
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> does anyone want
> > to be
> > > > blind?
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > **************
> > > > >>> >> > Feeling the pinch at
> > the grocery
> > > > store? Make dinner for $10 or
> > > > >>> >> > less.
> > > >
> > (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
> > > > >>> >> >
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