[stylist] using borrowed words?

[Tamara Smith-Kinney]

Judith,

Excellent example.  I've been thinking "go ahead and use it," but now I'm
tending towards thinking something different along the same principle might
be better...

On a theoretical level, anyway, since it's Helene's call.  /grin/

Helene, something tells me you will come up with something brilliant --
sounds like you're already on the road.  Reading your questions and the
discussion and vicariously going through the process of refining the bits
and pieces that make the difference between a pretty good work and a
brilliant one has me thinking about my poor neglected fantasy.  Thinking is
about all the attention I can give it right now, but it's fun to use my free
headspace time to dust off my to do list of areas to brush up on and get
into order before I start putting fingers to keyboard again in the
indeterminate future.  Fun, fun!

Keep up the good work!

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] using borrowed words?

The problem is that J.K. Rawling did the research and proceeded to write 
books using those words that, today, are as American as apple pie.  Oops, 
Helene is from England.  They are as well known as the lyrics of Elton John.

You can use a word or phrase from some obscure author of the sixteenth 
century, but you think twice before copying Shakespeare.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] using borrowed words?


> Helene,
> Although I'd like to say J.K. Rowling is brilliant, and created all
> her weird and strange words on her own, I did run across a book that
> uncovered the meanings behind certain words and names, which lead me
> to believe Rowling just did some extensive research to find a lot of
> what she wanted. Granted, some of the stuff she did come up with on
> her own, considering the book said that certain words, names, and
> phraises had no historical, mythical, or previously used meanings
> behind them.
> If "squib," has as many meanings and uses as you stated before, I
> don't see the harm in using it in your piece.
> Aziza
>
> On 5/2/09, Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> My off the top of my head answer would be to use it if it has the meaning
>> you want.  After all, Ms. Rowling did just that when she picked that word

>> to
>> apply to a witch/wizard with no bang.  /smile/
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of helene ryles
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:16 AM
>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] using borrowed words?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your advise. "Squib has lots of meanings including
>> a magically impaired person (from Harry Potter) to a fire cracker.
>> Here is the list that I found from Wiki on line.
>>
>> "Squib may refer to:
>>
>> Squib (explosive), a small explosive
>> Squib load, a firearms malfunction in which a bullet becomes lodged in
>> the barrel
>> Squib (linguistics), a short article that is intended to ignite
>> thinking and discourse
>> Squib sailboat, a small sailboat
>> Squib (weblog), a free, open source, weblog publishing application
>> written in Ruby programming language
>> Squib (program), a computer message board system
>> Squib (Harry Potter), a magically-impaired member of a wizarding
>> family in Harry Potter
>> Squib, an alien race in Star Wars
>> Squib kick, a technique applied to American football kickoffs
>> West Country Carnival, also known as squibbing, a tradition of the
>> West Country Carnival in Bridgwater, where by 140 squib fireworks are
>> held aloft at the end of the procession
>> Squib (Australian Slang), an action lacking in courage"
>>
>> Since it's been used before both in star trek and Harry potter does
>> that make it more or less viable for me to use?
>>
>> Helene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/04/2009, slery <slerythema at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>> No. You would need to create your own word. This is a Harry Potter 
>>> phrase
>>> and is only applicable to that world.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of helene ryles
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:04 AM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] using borrowed words?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering what the rules are on using words that another
>>>> writer has made up.
>>>>
>>>> The word I have in mind is squib. For those who haven't read
>>>> harry Potter a squib is someone who comes from a magical
>>>> family but is not magical themselves. I have a few 'squibs'
>>>> in a deafblind girl.
>>>>
>>>> Would I be able to use this word in my novel or would I have
>>>> to make up another?
>>>>
>>>> Helene
>>>>
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