[stylist] learning braille
Judith Bron
jbron at optonline.net
Mon Nov 16 21:58:53 UTC 2009
Agreed. I don't want to speak Spanish, and I don't expect the people of
Greece to speak English.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] learning braille
> And there is the rub for all this multiculturalism. When in Rome, do as
> the Romans do. If you live in The U.S., speak English, learn our history
> with its good and bad. What mostly there is good because most of the bad
> we have corrected.
> Barbara
>
> Snow is God's way of reminding us that beauty can be found even in the
> coldest hearts.
>
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> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:31 AM
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] learning braille
>
>> Barbara, Sign language and braille as options would be fine, just don't
>> make them mandatory. I disagree with Spanish being shoved down our
>> throats. I resent it when a sales person in a store can't answer my
>> simple question about merchandise in English. My resentment grows when
>> they point their finger in the direction of what I want. They can point
>> all day, but I still won't find what I'm looking for.
>> Don't many deaf people read lips? I've communicated with many deaf
>> people because they read lips. People who are blind communicate with the
>> spoken word. This is America. Our language is English. I can't expect
>> to walk into Greece and expect the clerk in the store to speak English.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] learning braille
>>
>>
>>> Gee, I would agree with you and yet why is it that our children are
>>> having Spanish shoved down their throats?
>>> I think that at the age when foreign language is an option in school, it
>>> should be sign language and braille. (Or at least have them included as
>>> options.) Any foreign language speaker can learn English. A deaf
>>> person will never learn to talk and hear what's said and a blind person
>>> will never learn to read print.
>>> I do understand about that slippery slope and maybe this would be headed
>>> down it, I don't know.
>>> Barbara
>>> Snow is God's way of reminding us that beauty can be found even in the
>>> coldest hearts.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:30 AM
>>> To: "Stylist" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [stylist] learning braille
>>>
>>>> Robert and all, I think we are missing the important point here. Is
>>>> our goal to get the entire world to read Braille or evoke equal respect
>>>> from society because we are blind? Here's a brief example of what I
>>>> mean by evoking respect even though we are different.
>>>>
>>>> My family eats only kosher foods. For dinner last night I made
>>>> meatballs in an Italian sauce. I used ground beef, tomato sauce and
>>>> Italian spices. Now someone might say, "How can you make an Italian
>>>> sauce without pork products?" My religion forbids me from eating pork
>>>> products. Someone of Middle East descent might say, "How can it have
>>>> been good if you didn't use cumin?" I have a friend who is allergic to
>>>> tomatoes and has developed her own sauce for meatballs without using
>>>> tomato sauce. All of us are different and there is no law that all of
>>>> our eating needs be met the same way. Let's take it a bit further.
>>>>
>>>> When talking about "how nice" it would be if all children learned
>>>> Braille to better understand folks without sight we are starting a
>>>> journey down a slippery slope that can be extended in many dangerous
>>>> directions. No, not every one is forced to eat only kosher foods. Not
>>>> everyone should be commanded to eat pork and not everyone should be
>>>> forced to live as if they too had an allergy to certain foods. We're
>>>> all different. Realize that and respect the right of every individual
>>>> to be different. Everyone should not be required to read Braille,
>>>> communicate with their friends via sign language, walk with a white
>>>> cane or spend their life in a wheelchair. Yes, there are people in
>>>> society who are handicapped, but society has to learn to respect those
>>>> things that make them different. If a man in the grocery store sitting
>>>> in the wheelchair asks a standing person to reach for the can on the
>>>> high shelf they should do it with a smile on their face. If a blind
>>>> person asks where the rest room is answer him and ask if he can be of
>>>> further assistance. You get the picture.
>>>>
>>>> There are those in society who demand that all people subscribe to
>>>> their religion. They claim that if this isn't accomplished they will
>>>> kill all people who reject their teachings. We all know how these
>>>> people are referred to. We reject their premise that all people are
>>>> the same and therefore must live the same way. We can't "demand" that
>>>> all first graders learn Braille and we can't command that a first grade
>>>> class in the public schools learn Japanese because one child might be
>>>> from Japan. Let's keep excelling in whatever it is we do best and gain
>>>> the respect and acceptance of society because we deserve it. Judith
>>>>
>>>>
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