[stylist] Editing with JAWS

Donna Hill penatwork at epix.net
Thu Nov 11 15:52:23 UTC 2010 

Hi Ashley and Judith,
In word docs, Insert f tells more than just the font face, style and 
point size. It also tells the basic formatting like line spacing, 
paragraph style, alignment, etc. This info is only available in Office 
Word (.doc) documents, not in text docs and e-mail. It tends to be very 
accurate for checking a paragraph, and not so much when selecting an 
entire document. I've had cases where every paragraph will say "12 
point, Times New Roman, Normal Style" etc. when done individually, but 
when looked at as a whole, it will say "mixed point mixed font mixed 
style." I've gotten into the habit of checking my book chapters with 
Insert f a paragraph at a time. The other thing that is tricky is 
checking a line at a time (especially lines like Chapter titles when I 
want to double-check that I've centered, boldfaced and increased the 
font size). I find that the Jaws's command for selecting a line actually 
picks up more than the line, usually including the next line down which 
doesn't have the boldface, centering etc. What I do is select line and 
then back-track character by character till I unselect the last 
character in the line. Once I know where I am, I reselect that character 
to ensure that I have the line I want and nothing else.

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On 11/10/2010 7:51 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
> Insert F will tell you when something is bold or underlined.  As for 
> format I learned that when you press alt plus the delete key it will 
> tell which position a letter is.  I find this invaluable in formatting 
> paragraphs. Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" 
> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith and all, I am also interested in the verbosity explanation. Is 
>> there a way to have jaws also tell you formating line by line before 
>> jaws reads the line?  I mean like bold, italics, color, indents, 
>> etc.  I know the command insert F for font but then you have to do 
>> that every time you want info.
>>
>> Ashley
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.  
>>> From what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and 
>>> grammer errors as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Judith,
>>>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because 
>>>> it's changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>>>
>>>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from 
>>>> the number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press 
>>>> alt-S for the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound 
>>>> schemes." When you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading 
>>>> attributes and font information" and tab to the OK button and hit 
>>>> enter. This will give you information about fonts and indentation. 
>>>> You can find settings for the spelling and grammar errors in the 
>>>> verbosity settings by pressing Insert-V from within your word 
>>>> document. If anyone wants more detailed information on that 
>>>> process, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some 
>>>>>> looking either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list 
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dunse" 
>>>>>> <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that 
>>>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
>>>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There 
>>>>>>> are tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and 
>>>>>>> etc. As far as I know, there has never been an actual spell 
>>>>>>> checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a part of the 
>>>>>>> screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which 
>>>>>>> will alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open 
>>>>>>> parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't seem to catch my 
>>>>>>> test goofs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I 
>>>>>>> can't get it to work on here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>>> Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on 
>>>>>>>> a line that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on 
>>>>>>>> that line.  I can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this 
>>>>>>>> told me that a word was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I 
>>>>>>>> already have jaws set to announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a 
>>>>>>>>> refreshable
>>>>>>>>> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
>>>>>>>>> spelling,
>>>>>>>>> grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a quick 
>>>>>>>>> plug for
>>>>>>>>> Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as 
>>>>>>>>> difficult as
>>>>>>>>> you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  
>>>>>>>>> One big
>>>>>>>>> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that 
>>>>>>>>> will read
>>>>>>>>> all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the 
>>>>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>>>>> window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then 
>>>>>>>>> tab until
>>>>>>>>> you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short 
>>>>>>>>> cut is to
>>>>>>>>> press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue 
>>>>>>>>> box, then
>>>>>>>>> it will list different options, press P until you hear 
>>>>>>>>> punctuation,
>>>>>>>>> press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until 
>>>>>>>>> you hear
>>>>>>>>> "all."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>> after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for 
>>>>>>>>> editing
>>>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
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