[stylist] Editing with JAWS

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Thu Nov 11 16:06:36 UTC 2010 

You're right Donna.  I use insert F so often that I only tune into what I'm 
looking for.  Insert F tells line spacing, cursor position of first letter 
of first word, the font and paragraph format.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS


> Hi Ashley and Judith,
> In word docs, Insert f tells more than just the font face, style and point 
> size. It also tells the basic formatting like line spacing, paragraph 
> style, alignment, etc. This info is only available in Office Word (.doc) 
> documents, not in text docs and e-mail. It tends to be very accurate for 
> checking a paragraph, and not so much when selecting an entire document. 
> I've had cases where every paragraph will say "12 point, Times New Roman, 
> Normal Style" etc. when done individually, but when looked at as a whole, 
> it will say "mixed point mixed font mixed style." I've gotten into the 
> habit of checking my book chapters with Insert f a paragraph at a time. 
> The other thing that is tricky is checking a line at a time (especially 
> lines like Chapter titles when I want to double-check that I've centered, 
> boldfaced and increased the font size). I find that the Jaws's command for 
> selecting a line actually picks up more than the line, usually including 
> the next line down which doesn't have the boldface, centering etc. What I 
> do is select line and then back-track character by character till I 
> unselect the last character in the line. Once I know where I am, I 
> reselect that character to ensure that I have the line I want and nothing 
> else.
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> On 11/10/2010 7:51 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>> Insert F will tell you when something is bold or underlined.  As for 
>> format I learned that when you press alt plus the delete key it will tell 
>> which position a letter is.  I find this invaluable in formatting 
>> paragraphs. Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" 
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Judith and all, I am also interested in the verbosity explanation. Is 
>>> there a way to have jaws also tell you formating line by line before 
>>> jaws reads the line?  I mean like bold, italics, color, indents, etc.  I 
>>> know the command insert F for font but then you have to do that every 
>>> time you want info.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings. 
>>>> From what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and 
>>>> grammer errors as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Judith,
>>>>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's 
>>>>> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the 
>>>>> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S 
>>>>> for the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." 
>>>>> When you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and 
>>>>> font information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will 
>>>>> give you information about fonts and indentation. You can find 
>>>>> settings for the spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings 
>>>>> by pressing Insert-V from within your word document. If anyone wants 
>>>>> more detailed information on that process, let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking 
>>>>>>> either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dunse" 
>>>>>>> <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that 
>>>>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
>>>>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are 
>>>>>>>> tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As 
>>>>>>>> far as I know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool 
>>>>>>>> in Jaws, it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws 
>>>>>>>> has a thing called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple 
>>>>>>>> spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But 
>>>>>>>> it didn't seem to catch my test goofs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't 
>>>>>>>> get it to work on here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>>>> Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a 
>>>>>>>>> line that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that 
>>>>>>>>> line.  I can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me 
>>>>>>>>> that a word was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already 
>>>>>>>>> have jaws set to announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a 
>>>>>>>>>> refreshable
>>>>>>>>>> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
>>>>>>>>>> spelling,
>>>>>>>>>> grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a quick 
>>>>>>>>>> plug for
>>>>>>>>>> Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as 
>>>>>>>>>> difficult as
>>>>>>>>>> you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One 
>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that 
>>>>>>>>>> will read
>>>>>>>>>> all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the 
>>>>>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>>>>>> window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab 
>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>> you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short 
>>>>>>>>>> cut is to
>>>>>>>>>> press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue 
>>>>>>>>>> box, then
>>>>>>>>>> it will list different options, press P until you hear 
>>>>>>>>>> punctuation,
>>>>>>>>>> press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until 
>>>>>>>>>> you hear
>>>>>>>>>> "all."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>> after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for 
>>>>>>>>>> editing
>>>>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
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