[stylist] Apology on book discussion/review forum

Thu Dec 8 04:27:38 UTC 2011

proper use of the subject lines means that those who oppose this addition to stylist can skip those book review messages.  
jc

At 02:10 PM 12/7/2011, you wrote:
>Eve and others,
>
>I think you misunderstand my intentions and what I'm trying to
>accomplish. I do recognize that I was too strong in this reply, but
>please understand my intentions.
>
>Trying to be devil's advocate, and also disagreeing with certain views,
>I have only tried to encourage the thought that discussing published
>material is very instrumental to the writing process, and I tried to
>pull an answer from those so adament that Stylist is not the appropriate
>forum for such a discussion. Based solely on the opposed arguments, and
>how the opposition has defined Stylist, and based on what I understand
>the purpose of Stylist to be, I want to know why this idea is so
>strongly opposed by a few.
>
>I'm not questioning your intellect, your own writing, your person, but
>only your argument specific to this discussion. In my opinion, I have
>yet to be convinced as to why this idea is so wrong for Stylist, and I
>want to better understand opposing points of view. Yes, based on this
>argument alone, I do believe I'm right, but this doesn't mean I think
>I'm always right, or that no one else has, or can, state their opinions
>and views. This is not to hush others up or stop the flow of exchanging
>ideas and opinions; I enjoy and respect the democratic sesibility of
>this listserve, and based on my own past experiences with Stylist, I in
>no way wish for others to feel bullied or deter you from posting
>opinions and ideas.  Regardless of the intent, those opposing this idea
>have out-right said that discussing published work doesn't belong on
>Stylist, and most of us believing the opposite, I'm trying to get us all
>to consider the point, and I still fail to understand your point of view
>and want better clarity on that view.
>
>If my comments have been taken on a personal level other than against an
>argument, I apologize, and know this never has been my goal. I may have
>been blunt and too strong, but I only did so to attempt to open all of
>us to this idea, and I have been frustrated that a few seem to jump to
>the conclusion that this idea in any form doesn't belong on Stylist, and
>it doesn't appear as though alternate conclusions have been considered.
>
>I accept Robert's appointment, and am eager to see what we can make of
>this, but whether or not this idea is implemented is not the basis for
>my argument; I truly do not understand, and yes, have been frustrated,
>why there's such a strong opposition to this idea. I do feel the
>arguments against this idea are weak, and again, based on my
>understanding of Stylist, and what I have been taught is a part of the
>writing process, I tried to place my reasoning alongside the points I
>question. If this has been interpreted as me attacking on a personal
>level, or me thinking I'm superior, I assure you this has never been a
>part of my response to any of you.
>
>I know I've gone too far, but it's only because I fail to understand
>some of the reasoning behind the opposition, and holding an opinion can
>never be faulted. And perhaps I have misunderstood some of you. Whether
>it was meant or not, I've read over and over how discussing published
>material isn't the type of discussion belonging on Stylist, and that we
>should only be sharing our own writing and suggestions and tips in which
>to improve our own writing. This is what I, and others, are taking from
>the opposing views. Seeing as I believe discussing published material is
>instrumental and beneficial to the writing process, I have attempted to
>get others to realize this, or at least consider it, and I want a better
>understanding from the opposition.
>
>I'm sorry if I haven't made my intent clear, or if I have offended in
>any way. Know that I don't believe myself superior to anyone, or that my
>opinion is always the only and right one. Disagreeing with anyone is not
>a reflection on what I think about a person as an individual or what
>abilities and talents they may have. If any of this has been implied, I
>haven't made my point clear, and I've been too strong in my argument. I
>am sorry to you Eve, and to anyone else who feels I've been too strong.
>I know what it feels like to be cornered and bullied, and I truly don't
>wish that on anyone especially with a community of people who have such
>diverse backgrounds and a lot to offer. I respect our differing point of
>views and and individual arguments and opinions as much as I respect the
>contributions made to Stylist.
>
>Sincerely,
>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Read my blog at:
>http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
> 
>"History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
>Message: 34
>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:05:16 -0700
>From: Eve Sanchez <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Book discussion/review forum
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>Wow Bridget, why so hostile. I never said I was opposed. An opinion was
>asked for and I gave it. I believe that having a separate list serve
>will
>give the opportunity to bring in more people and I stand by my opinion.
>I
>am not annoyed by your suggestions, just your attitude that everyone who
>disagrees with it is is wrong. Also I did not know that the writer's
>list
>serve was only for critiquing and showing our work. I have gotten much
>information from here that has been shared on other subjects. I am sorry
>I
>have not shared my work or commented on yours. I do not have time for
>that,
>but that does not mean I am not a REAL writer and I am offended by your
>implication. I guess if my opinion is taken so harshly I will refrain
>from
>giving it in future. Eve Sanchez
>
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