[stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums

Donna Hill penatwork at epix.net
Tue Jan 4 16:00:54 UTC 2011 

Hi Marion,
Overly sensative, indeed! As a '50s kid, I don't remember hoodlum having 
any racial overtones, and that was in the day when no one kept their 
racial slurs in check. Our neighborhood was all white and we had hoodlums.

Donna

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On 1/4/2011 8:37 AM, Marion Gwizdala, M.S. wrote:
>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum" 
> to describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school 
> system. There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming it 
> was a racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive response!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>
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>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45 
>> years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we 
>> called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets 
>> and looked mean as bad.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" 
>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>
>>
>>> Donna,
>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men 
>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was slang 
>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>> jc
>>>
>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>> On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel 
>>>> and there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws' 
>>>> pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded sweatshirts. 
>>>> According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are 
>>>> acceptible. Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending 
>>>> in 'y.
>>>>
>>>> I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my 
>>>> character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and 
>>>> named a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is 
>>>> -- is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees, 
>>>> thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like 
>>>> the one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic 
>>>> first names as a boy's name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't 
>>>> had any luck at tracking down the truth of the matter. Any 
>>>> suggestions?
>>>> Donna
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>>>> On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>> JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially 
>>>>> with the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, 
>>>>> Midwest and West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some 
>>>>> words in Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it 
>>>>> appears in a Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws 
>>>>> really should become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a 
>>>>> version for Chinese and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>> my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for the 
>>>>>> g in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>> thanks judith.
>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>> The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My 
>>>>>>> husband had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed 
>>>>>>> the wedding with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using 
>>>>>>> the word thingy since my kids were little, and they're not 
>>>>>>> little any more.  Their kids are, but I won't bore you with a 
>>>>>>> grandma email.  The word thingy was just convenient when 
>>>>>>> something couldn't be identified or it's use was questionable.  
>>>>>>> For example, my sons always built "thingys" with their legoes.  
>>>>>>> Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his 
>>>>>>>> wife. *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and 
>>>>>>>> promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>> just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>> she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is 
>>>>>>>> her first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words is 
>>>>>>>> "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language, grammar, 
>>>>>>>> spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the 
>>>>>>>> plural as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>> whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the 
>>>>>>>> problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>
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