[stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Tue Jan 4 16:39:37 UTC 2011 

Ah ha, but now you're racist if you claim that someone's mother is ugly.  It 
makes no sense.  But then again, idiocy never had to make sense.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums


> Hoodlum is now a race? I think there is a bit of growing up to do no 
> matter the age of those commenters. Race is ethnicity, by them 
> complaining, are they not self-discriminating/slurring?  Calling 
> themselves hoodlum. If they shut their mouth they'd exclude themselves 
> from any pointed remark, unless there is existance of a guilty conscious 
> minus  the willingness to change that compells them to cry out.  No 
> different than a police line up with both innocent and suspected guilty 
> people in the line up with no one actually knowing for sure which is 
> which, the police announcing all criminals... the   dirty rotten 
> scoundrels they are will be denied their meal for the day, and the guilty 
> half jump up and cry inhumane treatment. Wow!
>
>
> On 1/4/2011  07:37 AM Marion Gwizdala, M.S. said...
>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum" to 
>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school system. 
>> There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming it was a 
>> racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive response!
>>
>>Fraternally yours,
>>Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>
>>
>>>Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45 years 
>>>ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we called 
>>>hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets and looked 
>>>mean as bad.  Judith
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" 
>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Donna,
>>>>in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men 
>>>>wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was slang for 
>>>>hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>jc
>>>>
>>>>At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel and 
>>>>>there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws' 
>>>>>pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded sweatshirts. 
>>>>>According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are acceptible. 
>>>>>Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my 
>>>>>character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and named 
>>>>>a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is -- is that 
>>>>>she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees, thinking it was 
>>>>>D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like the one ending in 'i, 
>>>>>but that is listed on a site with Hispanic first names as a boy's name. 
>>>>>I've lost touch with her, so haven't had any luck at tracking down the 
>>>>>truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>Donna
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially with 
>>>>>>the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest and 
>>>>>>West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in Hebrew 
>>>>>>and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a Hebrew 
>>>>>>word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should become more 
>>>>>>international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese and Japanese 
>>>>>>populations? Judith
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" 
>>>>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for the g 
>>>>>>>in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>thanks judith.
>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My husband 
>>>>>>>>had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the wedding 
>>>>>>>>with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word thingy 
>>>>>>>>since my kids were little, and they're not little any more.  Their 
>>>>>>>>kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word 
>>>>>>>>thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be identified or 
>>>>>>>>it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons always built 
>>>>>>>>"thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>>>>>>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his wife. 
>>>>>>>>>*heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and 
>>>>>>>>>promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is her 
>>>>>>>>>first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words is 
>>>>>>>>>"thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language, grammar, 
>>>>>>>>>spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the plural 
>>>>>>>>>as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the 
>>>>>>>>>problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>
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