[stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Thu Jan 6 00:38:48 UTC 2011 

No, hoodlum is not slang.  When we called someone a hood we didn't care if 
it was a proper word, it was just our way of referring to a group of people, 
usually guys, who spent their time trying to make someone's life miserable. 
Since I stayed away from them and them me, I just know what others told me 
about their actions.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums


> Woe, this is confusing. Is hoodlum slang?
> It does not sound racist. That word was not used in my public schools; I'm 
> younger than most of you.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's 
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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>> Now it's gone too far!  A Hoodlum is a racial slur?  I went to an eighty 
>> percent black school.  All the hoods in my school were white.  Out of 
>> fear of being labeled racist, I won't tell you the common nationality of 
>> all the hoods.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:37 AM
>> Subject: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum" to 
>>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school 
>>> system. There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming it 
>>> was a racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive response!
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45 
>>>> years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we 
>>>> called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets and 
>>>> looked mean as bad.  Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Donna,
>>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men 
>>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was slang 
>>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>> jc
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel and 
>>>>>>there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws' 
>>>>>>pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded sweatshirts. 
>>>>>>According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are acceptible. 
>>>>>>Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my 
>>>>>>character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and named 
>>>>>>a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is -- 
>>>>>>is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees, 
>>>>>>thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like the 
>>>>>>one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic first 
>>>>>>names as a boy's name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had any 
>>>>>>luck at tracking down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>Donna
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>>>>>>On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially with 
>>>>>>>the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest and 
>>>>>>>West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in 
>>>>>>>Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a 
>>>>>>>Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should 
>>>>>>>become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese 
>>>>>>>and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" 
>>>>>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for the g 
>>>>>>>>in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My husband 
>>>>>>>>>had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the wedding 
>>>>>>>>>with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word thingy 
>>>>>>>>>since my kids were little, and they're not little any more.  Their 
>>>>>>>>>kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word 
>>>>>>>>>thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be identified or 
>>>>>>>>>it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons always built 
>>>>>>>>>"thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>>>>>>>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his wife. 
>>>>>>>>>>*heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and 
>>>>>>>>>>promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is her 
>>>>>>>>>>first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words is 
>>>>>>>>>>"thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language, grammar, 
>>>>>>>>>>spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the plural 
>>>>>>>>>>as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the 
>>>>>>>>>>problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>>
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