[stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums

James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR n6yr at sunflower.com
Thu Jan 6 02:49:11 UTC 2011 

Ashley,
just a note the "whoa" at the beginning of your note should be w h o 
a, as one would command a horse.  w o e is a warning in older english 
or bad tidings.

I am not sure but I think hoodlum was slang but became common english 
through usage as so often happens.

well:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=hoodlum&searchmode=term

one of my favorite resources tells me the word might date to 1870's 
california, san francisco.
then back to a related word in a german dialect.

www.etymonline.com
is a great place to learn about words.
jc

At 06:10 PM 1/5/2011, you wrote:
>Woe, this is confusing. Is hoodlum slang?
>It does not sound racist. That word was not used in my public 
>schools; I'm younger than most of you.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's 
>Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:34 AM
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>
>
>>Now it's gone too far!  A Hoodlum is a racial slur?  I went to an 
>>eighty percent black school.  All the hoods in my school were 
>>white.  Out of fear of being labeled racist, I won't tell you the 
>>common nationality of all the hoods.  Judith
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." 
>><marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:37 AM
>>Subject: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term 
>>> "hoodlum" to describe some of the less than desirable influences 
>>> in our school system. There was a public outcry against this 
>>> individual, claiming it was a racial slur. In my opinion, this 
>>> was an overly sensitive response!
>>>
>>>Fraternally yours,
>>>Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 
>>>>45 years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of 
>>>>guys we called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter 
>>>>leather jackets and looked mean as bad.  Judith
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Donna,
>>>>>in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by 
>>>>>men wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>>and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was 
>>>>>slang for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>>good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>>jc
>>>>>
>>>>>At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my 
>>>>>>novel and there was an instance where I chose a spelling based 
>>>>>>on Jaws' pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded 
>>>>>>sweatshirts. According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or 
>>>>>>h-o-o-d-i-e are acceptible. Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I 
>>>>>>chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of 
>>>>>>my character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago 
>>>>>>and named a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as 
>>>>>>it is -- is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband 
>>>>>>disagrees, thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and 
>>>>>>Damary. I like the one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a 
>>>>>>site with Hispanic first names as a boy's name. I've lost touch 
>>>>>>with her, so haven't had any luck at tracking down the truth of 
>>>>>>the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>Donna
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, 
>>>>>>>especially with the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in 
>>>>>>>Northeast, South, Midwest and West. But it does come in 
>>>>>>>British.  Since I write some words in Hebrew and our CH sound 
>>>>>>>sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a Hebrew word, I'll 
>>>>>>>attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should become more 
>>>>>>>international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese and 
>>>>>>>Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday 
>>>>>>>M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for 
>>>>>>>>the g in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My 
>>>>>>>>>husband had it when our youngest son got married.  He 
>>>>>>>>>enjoyed the wedding with his leg up on another chair.  I've 
>>>>>>>>>been using the word thingy since my kids were little, and 
>>>>>>>>>they're not little any more.  Their kids are, but I won't 
>>>>>>>>>bore you with a grandma email.  The word thingy was just 
>>>>>>>>>convenient when something couldn't be identified or it's use 
>>>>>>>>>was questionable.  For example, my sons always built 
>>>>>>>>>"thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday 
>>>>>>>>>M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his 
>>>>>>>>>>wife. *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and 
>>>>>>>>>>promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today 
>>>>>>>>>>is her first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite 
>>>>>>>>>>words is "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with 
>>>>>>>>>>language, grammar, spelling, to further communicate my 
>>>>>>>>>>point I oftenspell the plural as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out 
>>>>>>>>>>the problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>>
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