[stylist] Hood exercise

[Judith Bron]

The paragraph was cute.  You characterized the characters well and 
effectively.  The writing reminded me of the shootings at Virginia Teck.


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> Judith,
>
> Since there has been an ongoing dialogue about hoods and hoodlums, I
> prompted the list to construct a short writing with these words/concepts
> in mind.
>
> Bridgit
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>   1. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Donna Hill)
>   2. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5 (Donna Hill)
>   3. Hello from New Slate & Style Editor (Bridgit Pollpeter)
>   4. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Kerry Thompson)
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>   6. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 (Kerry Thompson)
>   7. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5 (Kerry Thompson)
>   8. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5 (Kerry Thompson)
>   9. Re: Hoody bit (Brad Dunse)
>  10. Re: heart thingies, thanks (Ashley  Bramlett)
>  11. Re: Hoods & Hoodlums (Ashley  Bramlett)
>  12. Re: Hoods & Hoodlums (Ashley  Bramlett)
>  13. Re: Hoods & Hoodlums (Ashley  Bramlett)
>  14. Re: Hoods and Hoodlums- writing exercise? (Ashley  Bramlett)
>  15. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Donna Hill)
>  16. Re: editing question (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
>  17. Re: Hoods & Hoodlums (Judith Bron)
>  18. Re: Hoods & Hoodlums (Judith Bron)
>  19. Latest Edition of my e-newsletter (cheryl echevarria)
>  20. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 7 (Kerry Thompson)
>  21. Hood exercise (Bridgit Pollpeter)
>  22. Re: Hood exercise (Judith Bron)
>  23. Re: Hoods & Hoodlums (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
>  24. Re: Hood exercise (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
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> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:04:41 -0500
> From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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> Agreed, Judith, but now what? How do we get them to see the truth? If
> people are correct that the root is fear, then what works against that?
> Donna
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> On 1/5/2011 4:40 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>> Donna and Carry,  Yes, the numbers of dead and wounded in Viet Nam was
>> staggering, but we have to be focused that even though they are from
>> an all volunteer armed forces, they are still our family and friends.
>
>> When I worked for the Independent Living Center I proposed a program
>> for the newly handicapped that would encompass the vets returning home
>
>> permanantly disabled.  I was met with negaticves all the way up the
>> line.  The truth is people don't want to understand the handicapped.
>> It's a lot easier for them to stereotype and think of themselves as
>> mightier than you and I because they aren't blind, deaf or travelling
>> in a wheelchair.  Here's a funny anecdote, but you'll see the irony:
>> I was at a wedding recently.  I was speaking to my friend next to me
>> about recipes since both of us are on low carb.  I told her about a
>> recipe that I do with eggplant, zucchini, olive oil and grated
>> cheese.  A woman across the table asked me for the recipe again, she
>> wanted to try it.  A few minutes later I needed to use the lady's room
>
>> so got up and unfolded my cane.  My friend told me later, "She was
>> astounded!  You didn't sound handicapped!"
>> How does blind sound?  How does deaf stand out in a crowd?  How does
>> whealchair travel sound?  Friends, after all these years, all this
>> progress and our ever increased abilities, the world is not ready to
>> accept us as equal citizens.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>> To: <cosmoscat at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>; "Kerry
>> Thompson" <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:10 PM
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>>
>>> Kerry,
>>> True, a higher percentage of wounded vets are now living with severe
>>> disabilities, but I think back to Vietnam. The sheer numbers of
>>> wounded, killed and disabled were so vastly higher than we have seen
>>> in Iraq and Afghanistan that even though a higher percentage are
>>> surviving today, there were still many more individuals surviving
>>> after Vietnam. Guess I'm just saying I don't hold out much hope for
>>> this to make a difference, especially since we now have an all
>>> volunteer armed forces and it's easier for people to turn away from
>>> the problems because they don't have the universal concern that it
>>> could be their loved ones.
>>> Donna
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2011 3:19 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>>> Donna,
>>>>
>>>> Free associating a bit here:  There have always been wounded i.e.
>>>> disabled veterans. But, with so many more wounded, with such
>>>> horrific injuries, surviving from Iraq and Afghanistan, coupled with
>
>>>> the fact that so many of them are so young,maybe the wall between
>>>> able bodied and disabled will finally start to crumble. These kids
>>>> are going to need serious care and serious societal change for many
>>>> years to come. Of course, it's already been ten years. How much
>>>> longer, how many more ordinary kids turned into desperately disabled
>
>>>> citizens is it going to take before the able bodied get the  message
>
>>>> that, to paraphrase Pogo, they have met the disabled and they are
> us?
>>>>
>>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>>> Kerry
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2011 8:56 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>> Thanks for the Damaris link. I know in high school, her teachers
>>>>> still called her Damari. If I can find her, I'll use whatever
>>>>> spelling she uses. If not, it'll stay Damari. Thanks for the
>>>>> liberating comments about using whatever one I like.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as Braille and literacy ... I think one of the understated
>>>>> issues with Braille literacy is that society is undergoing a
>>>>> blurring of standards for literacy in general, which is a shame. I
>>>>> really don't think people get that audio learning isn't the same as
>
>>>>> Braille or print. When I do radio interviews, I do often ask a
>>>>> sighted host how they would feel if their child came home with the
>>>>> happy news that he/she no longer needed to study reading, because
>>>>> the teacher thinks they're such a good listener. Of course, it
>>>>> isn't OK for sighted children to just listen, when you put it to
>>>>> them that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your comments about the fact that literacy for all should be
>>>>> the goal and we aren't second class ... I think that this is what
>>>>> Shawn was talking about when he mentioned that we need to make
>>>>> blindness and how we cope with it relevant to the general public.
>>>>> To most people, blind people are not equal. I say this not merely
>>>>> out of experience and observation but because it is what pollsters
>>>>> learn when they canvass non-disabled Americans on their beliefs
>>>>> about people with disabilities. The report I often cite from the
>>>>> early '90s says the general public views people with disabilities
>>>>> as "fundamentally different from the rest of the population." I
>>>>> don't think there's any other way to frame that other than by
>>>>> saying that we are in the minds of our fellow Americans second
>>>>> class. It always reminds me of the movie "Children of a Lesser God"
>
>>>>> which dealt withdeafness.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to get John & Jane Q. Public to understand the injustice
>>>>> of only 10% of blind children being literate or over 70% of blind
>>>>> adults being unemployed,  we have to first convince them that we
>>>>> are part of them, and that there's no reason they have to carry us
>>>>> on their backs. All too often the success stories of blind people
>>>>> are presented and viewed as isolated instances of inspiring
>>>>> individuals who surmounted insurmountable obstacles to get
>>>>> somewhere that can't really be expected of blind people in general.
>
>>>>> The fact that others could achieve if they had the tools, training
>>>>> and the attitude of these few isn't discussed. I think the public
>>>>> likes to have the occasional blind hero to give them a warm and
>>>>> fuzzy feeling. There wouldn't be as much of that, if we were
>>>>> expected to achieve like everyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think your points about working for equality like other
>>>>> minorities is right on. It's a civil rights issue based on fear and
>
>>>>> prejudice. I don't think the public gets that either. They think we
>
>>>>> are here to be taken care of and to remind them of how good they
>>>>> have it because they can see.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna, maybe the problem, the barrier, is the emphasis on
>>>>>> "braille." The emphasis needs to be on "reading," however the
>>>>>> individual approaches reading. It sticks in my mind that only ten
>>>>>> per cent of blind children are taught to read braille, i.e. the
>>>>>> method of reading appropriate to them. Only ten percent! How would
>
>>>>>> society at large react if, say, only ten per cent of black
>>>>>> children were taught to read, or ten per cent of Jewish children,
>>>>>> or ten per cent of children from Idaho? It's a question of human
>>>>>> rights. All American children should be taught to read. Someof
>>>>>> them need an alternative method to print. So what? The method
>>>>>> isn't (or shouldn't be) the issue. The issue should be literacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I realize the above sounds naive and utopian. But, I truly
>>>>>> believe it should be the goal. I mean, the phrase "separate but
>>>>>> equal" comes to mind whenever I hear people talk about braille
>>>>>> literacy. Literacy is the goal, full literacy of the entire U.S.
>>>>>> population. For most that will mean print literacy, for some,
>>>>>> braille literacy. But, the two really can't be separated. To read
>>>>>> is to read, whether with the eyes or with the fingers. The false
>>>>>> dichotomy of literacy and braille literacy needs to be removed,
>>>>>> both in our own minds and in themind of John Q. Public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That reminds me. Did Congress ever do anything about the shameful
>>>>>> lack of accessible textbooks for blind schoolchildren? Again, it
>>>>>> seems to me the emphasis needs to be, not on the difference, books
>
>>>>>> in braille, but on the colossal injustice ofany American
>>>>>> schoolchild being denied access to schoolbooks. Again, how would
>>>>>> it be if it were some other group being denied access to schooling
>
>>>>>> or to the necessary books? It wouldn't wash. We have to present
>>>>>> our needs the way Civil Rights and Women's Rights campaigners
>>>>>> presented needs, not as special concessions or favors we're asking
>
>>>>>> for, but as matters of right, of justice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a time when printed books were very rare and valuable.
>>>>>> Now, you can pick up a mass market paperback for five or six
>>>>>> bucks. Braille books are just the same. Now they are dear, but as
>>>>>> demand grows with the increasing literacy of the blind population,
>
>>>>>> prices will come down. That's simple demand and supply. As demand
>>>>>> grows, supply also grows and prices fall. Again, we all, blind and
>
>>>>>> sighted alike, have to stop regarding braille as a specialty item.
>
>>>>>> It's no different from print.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I donno. I just get so frustrated and angry at the conditions we
>>>>>> have to accept, conditions no other minority group would put up
>>>>>> with. We're not subhuman. We're citizens just like anybody else,
>>>>>> and we should have the same rights and expectations...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> End of rant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim, so glad Lynda is on the mend, if slowly. Continuing prayers
>>>>>> and heart thingies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judith, For some reason, I always thought "thingy" was chiefly
>>>>>> British. I've always liked it. Yes, it's a very useful word. It's
>>>>>> strange about the pronunciation. Window-eyes pronounces the
>>>>>> singular with the hard g sound but the plural with the soft g.
>>>>>> Just one of those oddnesses we have to get used to, I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judith, yeah, but it's a generic British just like the generic
>>>>>> American. I imagine British JAWS users get just as frustrated with
>
>>>>>> pronunciation as we do. And, how about the Canadians?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna, I know there's a girl's name Damaris. The way I've heard it
>
>>>>>> pronounced is with the stress on the second syllable. Here's the
>>>>>> page from Behind the Name:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.behindthename.com/name/damaris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Behind the Name does not have a listing for Damari. It sounds like
>
>>>>>> a diminutive to me, probably for Damaris or possibly a nursery
>>>>>> name derived from Rosemarie or Rosemary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The thing is, with a rare or even made up name, you can spell it
>>>>>> any old way you like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim, it's funny you should think the same thing about damari and
>>>>>> Damaris. Great minds...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure "hood" is out of date even now to mean hoodlum etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marion, what race was "hoodlum" supposed to be targeting? Sheesh!
>>>>>> Now, I can see "hooligan" being construed as anti-Irish, maybe,
>>>>>> but "hoodlum?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerry
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> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:06:29 -0500
> From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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> Cc: cosmoscat at earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
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> But, how can a literate and thinking society justify high-powered
> corporate executives getting more money than an entire school district
> full of teachers?
> Donna
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> On 1/5/2011 4:43 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>> Carry, Since the unions are taking so much of our hard earned money
>> away every week, I only ask that they do their job as people endowed
>> with a sacred trust, our children.  If they can't perform their duties
>
>> to the highest standards, let the union boss, the head of the Board of
>
>> Education or the school principal fire them and try again with a
>> person more committed to creating a literate and thinking society.
>> Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Thompson"
>> <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> Congratulations, Bridgit. Good luck in your new endeavor!
>>
>> Judith, while not wanting to demonize the unions, I agree that
>> concentrating on educating children and preparing them to be
> productive,
>> well-informed citizens needs to be the goal.
>>
>> I also agree with something Donna said earlier, something that has
> been
>> bothering me for some time in fact. That is the lessening or diluting
> of
>> literacy in the general public. I myself have spent most of my life
>> reading by listening, and the method has served me well. Still, I?d be
>> the first to point out that a great deal is missed when the reader
>> doesn?t have direct contact, interaction with the words on the page.
> But
>> even among sighted children the trend seems to be to switch to
>> listening. Maybe this is the SF writer in me taking over, but,
>> extrapolating the trend, I can foresee a time when there will again be
>> literate classes, in this case writers and actors, and unlettered
>> classes, everybody else. That?s certainly not a world I want to live
> in.
>>
>> Brad, LOL
>>
>> Solidarity and Peace,
>> Kerry
>>
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> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: [stylist] Hello from New Slate & Style Editor
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> I hope the New Year finds us eager to enjoy what 2011 will bring us.  I
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> I am from Omaha, Nebraska and recently celebrated my fith wedding
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>
> I hope to gather a core of consistent contributors as well as assistant
> editors dedicated to producing the best publication we can.  Many of us
> have a lot to offer, and if we combine our efforts, I know we can
> generate a publication that extends beyond the division and the
> Federation.
>
> We are specifically looking for the following at this point:
>
> We require a poetry editor who is knowledgeable on style and form.
> Those interested must possess an understanding of grammar, but also an
> understanding of the structure of poetry.
>
> We will also require at least one assistant editor to help with the
> editing process.  Those interested must possess an understanding of
> grammar and style.
>
> We will also require a layout editor to assist with the structure and
> design of the publication.
>
> And of course, we will require your submissions!  All submissions are
> welcome and will be considered for publication.  Suggestions and
> comments are encouraged as well.
>
> The Slate & Style is the face of the Writer's Division and the Stylist
> list serve.  Articles must reflect our best effort.  Please proofread
> and edit your own material before sending.  Our collective voice has
> much to say, and I hope to strengthen that voice.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:20:28 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> To: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
> Cc: cosmoscat at earthlink.net, Writer's Division Mailing List
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
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>
> Donna, You're right about the lack of a draft making it much easier for
> those not connected with the military to turn away. At the same time,
> there is much more media coverage of the plight of the wounded and of
> their families than I remember during Vietnam. Of course, I was very
> young, only eleven, when Vietnam ended, so my memory may not be all that
>
> reliable. Still it is true that the  mainstream media run a lot of
> stories, and many of them not feel-good success stories, about returning
>
> vets. So, though there isn't the threat that "your" son or daughter,
> niece or godson will be drafted, still anyone who watches network news
> knows what's going on.
>
> Also, lack of a draft doesn't necessarily mean lack of contact. In my
> own limited circle of friends, my best friend's sister had multiple
> deployments to Iraq and another friend's sister is a nurse who has
> served in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
>
> Guess I don't really have a point except to hope that, this time, some
> good will come to our society of all the suffering.
>
> Solidarity and Peace,
> Kerry
>
> On 1/5/2011 4:10 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>> Kerry,
>> True, a higher percentage of wounded vets are now living with severe
>> disabilities, but I think back to Vietnam. The sheer numbers of
>> wounded, killed and disabled were so vastly higher than we have seen
>> in Iraq and Afghanistan that even though a higher percentage are
>> surviving today, there were still many more individuals surviving
>> after Vietnam. Guess I'm just saying I don't hold out much hope for
>> this to make a difference, especially since we now have an all
>> volunteer armed forces and it's easier for people to turn away from
>> the problems because they don't have the universal concern that it
>> could be their loved ones.
>> Donna
>>
>> Read Donna's articles on
>> Suite 101:
>> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
>> Ezine Articles:
>> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
>> American Chronicle:
>> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>
>> Connect with Donna on
>> Twitter:
>> www.twitter.com/dewhill
>> LinkedIn:
>> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
>> FaceBook:
>> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>>
>> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>> Apple I-Tunes
>>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>>
>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>> www.padnfb.org
>>
>>
>> On 1/5/2011 3:19 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>> Donna,
>>>
>>> Free associating a bit here:  There have always been wounded i.e.
>>> disabled veterans. But, with so many more wounded, with such horrific
>
>>> injuries, surviving from Iraq and Afghanistan, coupled with the fact
>>> that so many of them are so young,maybe the wall between able bodied
>>> and disabled will finally start to crumble. These kids are going to
>>> need serious care and serious societal change for many years to come.
>
>>> Of course, it's already been ten years. How much longer, how many
>>> more ordinary kids turned into desperately disabled citizens is it
>>> going to take before the able bodied get the  message that, to
>>> paraphrase Pogo, they have met the disabled and they are us?
>>>
>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>> Kerry
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2011 8:56 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>> Thanks for the Damaris link. I know in high school, her teachers
>>>> still called her Damari. If I can find her, I'll use whatever
>>>> spelling she uses. If not, it'll stay Damari. Thanks for the
>>>> liberating comments about using whatever one I like.
>>>>
>>>> As far as Braille and literacy ... I think one of the understated
>>>> issues with Braille literacy is that society is undergoing a
>>>> blurring of standards for literacy in general, which is a shame. I
>>>> really don't think people get that audio learning isn't the same as
>>>> Braille or print. When I do radio interviews, I do often ask a
>>>> sighted host how they would feel if their child came home with the
>>>> happy news that he/she no longer needed to study reading, because
>>>> the teacher thinks they're such a good listener. Of course, it isn't
>
>>>> OK for sighted children to just listen, when you put it to them that
>
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>> As to your comments about the fact that literacy for all should be
>>>> the goal and we aren't second class ... I think that this is what
>>>> Shawn was talking about when he mentioned that we need to make
>>>> blindness and how we cope with it relevant to the general public. To
>
>>>> most people, blind people are not equal. I say this not merely out
>>>> of experience and observation but because it is what pollsters learn
>
>>>> when they canvass non-disabled Americans on their beliefs about
>>>> people with disabilities. The report I often cite from the early
>>>> '90s says the general public views people with disabilities as
>>>> "fundamentally different from the rest of the population." I don't
>>>> think there's any other way to frame that other than by saying that
>>>> we are in the minds of our fellow Americans second class. It always
>>>> reminds me of the movie "Children of a Lesser God" which dealt
>>>> withdeafness.
>>>>
>>>> In order to get John & Jane Q. Public to understand the injustice of
>
>>>> only 10% of blind children being literate or over 70% of blind
>>>> adults being unemployed,  we have to first convince them that we are
>
>>>> part of them, and that there's no reason they have to carry us on
>>>> their backs. All too often the success stories of blind people are
>>>> presented and viewed as isolated instances of inspiring individuals
>>>> who surmounted insurmountable obstacles to get somewhere that can't
>>>> really be expected of blind people in general. The fact that others
>>>> could achieve if they had the tools, training and the attitude of
>>>> these few isn't discussed. I think the public likes to have the
>>>> occasional blind hero to give them a warm and fuzzy feeling. There
>>>> wouldn't be as much of that, if we were expected to achieve like
>>>> everyone else.
>>>>
>>>> I think your points about working for equality like other minorities
>
>>>> is right on. It's a civil rights issue based on fear and prejudice.
>>>> I don't think the public gets that either. They think we are here to
>
>>>> be taken care of and to remind them of how good they have it because
>
>>>> they can see.
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read Donna's articles on
>>>> Suite 101:
>>>> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
>>>> Ezine Articles:
>>>> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
>>>> American Chronicle:
>>>> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>>>
>>>> Connect with Donna on
>>>> Twitter:
>>>> www.twitter.com/dewhill
>>>> LinkedIn:
>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
>>>> FaceBook:
>>>> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>>>>
>>>> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>>>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>>>> Apple I-Tunes
>>>>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>>>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>>> www.padnfb.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> Donna, maybe the problem, the barrier, is the emphasis on
>>>>> "braille." The emphasis needs to be on "reading," however the
>>>>> individual approaches reading. It sticks in my mind that only ten
>>>>> per cent of blind children are taught to read braille, i.e. the
>>>>> method of reading appropriate to them. Only ten percent! How would
>>>>> society at large react if, say, only ten per cent of black children
>
>>>>> were taught to read, or ten per cent of Jewish children, or ten per
>
>>>>> cent of children from Idaho? It's a question of human rights. All
>>>>> American children should be taught to read. Someof them need an
>>>>> alternative method to print. So what? The method isn't (or
>>>>> shouldn't be) the issue. The issue should be literacy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I realize the above sounds naive and utopian. But, I truly
>>>>> believe it should be the goal. I mean, the phrase "separate but
>>>>> equal" comes to mind whenever I hear people talk about braille
>>>>> literacy. Literacy is the goal, full literacy of the entire U.S.
>>>>> population. For most that will mean print literacy, for some,
>>>>> braille literacy. But, the two really can't be separated. To read
>>>>> is to read, whether with the eyes or with the fingers. The false
>>>>> dichotomy of literacy and braille literacy needs to be removed,
>>>>> both in our own minds and in themind of John Q. Public.
>>>>>
>>>>> That reminds me. Did Congress ever do anything about the shameful
>>>>> lack of accessible textbooks for blind schoolchildren? Again, it
>>>>> seems to me the emphasis needs to be, not on the difference, books
>>>>> in braille, but on the colossal injustice ofany American
>>>>> schoolchild being denied access to schoolbooks. Again, how would it
>
>>>>> be if it were some other group being denied access to schooling or
>>>>> to the necessary books? It wouldn't wash. We have to present our
>>>>> needs the way Civil Rights and Women's Rights campaigners presented
>
>>>>> needs, not as special concessions or favors we're asking for, but
>>>>> as matters of right, of justice.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a time when printed books were very rare and valuable.
>>>>> Now, you can pick up a mass market paperback for five or six bucks.
>
>>>>> Braille books are just the same. Now they are dear, but as demand
>>>>> grows with the increasing literacy of the blind population, prices
>>>>> will come down. That's simple demand and supply. As demand grows,
>>>>> supply also grows and prices fall. Again, we all, blind and sighted
>
>>>>> alike, have to stop regarding braille as a specialty item. It's no
>>>>> different from print.
>>>>>
>>>>> I donno. I just get so frustrated and angry at the conditions we
>>>>> have to accept, conditions no other minority group would put up
>>>>> with. We're not subhuman. We're citizens just like anybody else,
>>>>> and we should have the same rights and expectations...
>>>>>
>>>>> End of rant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim, so glad Lynda is on the mend, if slowly. Continuing prayers
>>>>> and heart thingies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Judith, For some reason, I always thought "thingy" was chiefly
>>>>> British. I've always liked it. Yes, it's a very useful word. It's
>>>>> strange about the pronunciation. Window-eyes pronounces the
>>>>> singular with the hard g sound but the plural with the soft g. Just
>
>>>>> one of those oddnesses we have to get used to, I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Judith, yeah, but it's a generic British just like the generic
>>>>> American. I imagine British JAWS users get just as frustrated with
>>>>> pronunciation as we do. And, how about the Canadians?
>>>>>
>>>>> Donna, I know there's a girl's name Damaris. The way I've heard it
>>>>> pronounced is with the stress on the second syllable. Here's the
>>>>> page from Behind the Name:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.behindthename.com/name/damaris
>>>>>
>>>>> Behind the Name does not have a listing for Damari. It sounds like
>>>>> a diminutive to me, probably for Damaris or possibly a nursery name
>
>>>>> derived from Rosemarie or Rosemary.
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing is, with a rare or even made up name, you can spell it
>>>>> any old way you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim, it's funny you should think the same thing about damari and
>>>>> Damaris. Great minds...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure "hood" is out of date even now to mean hoodlum etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marion, what race was "hoodlum" supposed to be targeting? Sheesh!
>>>>> Now, I can see "hooligan" being construed as anti-Irish, maybe, but
>
>>>>> "hoodlum?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kerry
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:25:30 EST
> From: KajunCutie926 at aol.com
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hello from New Slate & Style Editor
> Message-ID: <ea66e.65a7eb2d.3a5649da at aol.com>
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> Congratulations again Bridget!  What an excellent choice in  appointing
> you!  I see where you'd like to take Slate & Style and I am
> applauding....
>
> I'm still working on figuring out what creative non-fiction  is...)  One
>
> day I'll get it,  I hope!
>
> Congratulations again...
> Myrna
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/2011 4:18:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Hello  everyone,
>
> I hope the New Year finds us eager to enjoy what 2011 will  bring us.  I
> am honored and excited to be appointed the new  editor-in-chief for The
> Slate & Style.  With your support and  help, I hope to produce a quality
> and professional publication.
>
> I am  from Omaha, Nebraska and recently celebrated my fith wedding
> anniversary  with my husband, Ross.  I am a senior at the University of
> Nebraska in  Omaha , and I will graduate this year with a BFA in
> creative
> writing.   My emphasis is in creative nonfiction, but I have also
> followed the fiction  tract as well in the program.  I have been the
> editor-in-chief for the  Nebraska Independent, a Nebraska affiliate
> newsletter, for two years  now.  I also write a bi-weekly blog for Live
> Well Nebraska, an Omaha  World Herald website.  I am currently working
> on
> a full length  manuscript for both creative nonfiction and fiction.
>
> We are attempting  to give the Slate and Style a facelift--incorporating
> the foundations of  the publication with a fresh perspective.  I would
> like to see a mix  of literature pieces along with pieces that address
> writing--technical  aspects, style and structure, genre--essentially the
> "how-tos" of  writing.
>
> I hope to gather a core of consistent contributors as well as  assistant
> editors dedicated to producing the best publication we can.   Many of us
> have a lot to offer, and if we combine our efforts, I know we  can
> generate a publication that extends beyond the division and  the
> Federation.
>
> We are specifically looking for the following at  this point:
>
> We require a poetry editor who is knowledgeable on style  and form.
> Those interested must possess an understanding of grammar, but  also an
> understanding of the structure of poetry.
>
> We will  also require at least one assistant editor to help with the
> editing  process.  Those interested must possess an understanding of
> grammar  and style.
>
> We will also require a layout editor to assist with the  structure and
> design of the publication.
>
> And of course, we will  require your submissions!  All submissions are
> welcome and will be  considered for publication.  Suggestions and
> comments are encouraged  as well.
>
> The Slate & Style is the face of the Writer's Division and  the Stylist
> list serve.  Articles must reflect our best effort.   Please proofread
> and edit your own material before sending.  Our  collective voice has
> much to say, and I hope to strengthen that  voice.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit  Kuenning-Pollpeter
> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:15:27 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6
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> Hi friends,
>
> Welcome, Julie!
>
> There is a convention that thoughts are set in italics. Apostrophes or
> inverted commas, on the other hand, are for quotes within quotes. Thus,
> as I understand it, these rules would work out in practice like this.
>
> /What a drag/, Rick thought. (where what Rick thinks is in italics).
>
> "Hey, Carol," Ida said. "Cissy says 'hi!'" (where what Ida says is in
> ordinary, double quotes and what she reports Cissy as saying is in
> single quotes or inverted commas).
>
> But, to be certain, check out Strunk and White (that is /The Elements of
>
> Style/) or /The Chicago Manual of Style/, the two universally recognized
>
> authorities onmatters of grammar and style.
>
> As to a recollected dialog, I don't know what to do with that. Perhaps
> italicize and enclose in quotes? The problem doesn't often arise,
> though, because most often a recollection is of an indirect quote, like
> this:
>
> John remembered that Rita said she would meet him in the lobby.
>
> I suppose you could do it with direct quote, like this:
>
> John remembered Rita saying, "I'll meet you in the lobby, darling."
>
> In that case, it seems to me you use ordinary double quotes but no
> italics, since it's not the act of remembering that's crucial here but
> the scrap of dialogue. But it would be best to check Strunk and White or
>
> Chicago.
>
> Judith, another problem is that Brits and Americans have different
> conventions when it comes to quotation marks. If you've used Dickens as
> your model, you'll run into a whole lot of flack from any
> editor/publisher you submit your book to. Believe me, it's a whole lot
> less stressful to conform to American conventions from the start.
>
> Solidarity and Peace,
>
> Kerry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:23:02 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> To: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
> Cc: cosmoscat at earthlink.net, Writer's Division Mailing List
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
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> Search me. Are you sure we're a thinking society?
>
> Kerry
>
> On 1/5/2011 5:06 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>> But, how can a literate and thinking society justify high-powered
>> corporate executives getting more money than an entire school district
>
>> full of teachers?
>> Donna
>>
>> Read Donna's articles on
>> Suite 101:
>> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
>> Ezine Articles:
>> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
>> American Chronicle:
>> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>
>> Connect with Donna on
>> Twitter:
>> www.twitter.com/dewhill
>> LinkedIn:
>> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
>> FaceBook:
>> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>>
>> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>> Apple I-Tunes
>>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>>
>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>> www.padnfb.org
>>
>>
>> On 1/5/2011 4:43 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>> Carry, Since the unions are taking so much of our hard earned money
>>> away every week, I only ask that they do their job as people endowed
>>> with a sacred trust, our children.  If they can't perform their
>>> duties to the highest standards, let the union boss, the head of the
>>> Board of Education or the school principal fire them and try again
>>> with a person more committed to creating a literate and thinking
>>> society.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Thompson"
>>> <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> Congratulations, Bridgit. Good luck in your new endeavor!
>>>
>>> Judith, while not wanting to demonize the unions, I agree that
>>> concentrating on educating children and preparing them to be
> productive,
>>> well-informed citizens needs to be the goal.
>>>
>>> I also agree with something Donna said earlier, something that has
> been
>>> bothering me for some time in fact. That is the lessening or diluting
> of
>>> literacy in the general public. I myself have spent most of my life
>>> reading by listening, and the method has served me well. Still, I?d
> be
>>> the first to point out that a great deal is missed when the reader
>>> doesn?t have direct contact, interaction with the words on the page.
> But
>>> even among sighted children the trend seems to be to switch to
>>> listening. Maybe this is the SF writer in me taking over, but,
>>> extrapolating the trend, I can foresee a time when there will again
> be
>>> literate classes, in this case writers and actors, and unlettered
>>> classes, everybody else. That?s certainly not a world I want to live
> in.
>>>
>>> Brad, LOL
>>>
>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>> Kerry
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:28:05 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> To: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> Cc: cosmoscat at earthlink.net, Writer's Division Mailing List
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
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> Judith, I don't want to get into the merits and demerits of teachers'
> unions. It seems to me there must be a way to safeguard teachers while
> at the same time putting children and their learning needs first. But,
> I'm not a negotiator, and don't know how to accomplish both goals.
>
> Kerry
>
> On 1/5/2011 4:43 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>> Carry, Since the unions are taking so much of our hard earned money
>> away every week, I only ask that they do their job as people endowed
>> with a sacred trust, our children.  If they can't perform their duties
>
>> to the highest standards, let the union boss, the head of the Board of
>
>> Education or the school principal fire them and try again with a
>> person more committed to creating a literate and thinking society.
>> Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Thompson"
>> <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> Congratulations, Bridgit. Good luck in your new endeavor!
>>
>> Judith, while not wanting to demonize the unions, I agree that
>> concentrating on educating children and preparing them to be
> productive,
>> well-informed citizens needs to be the goal.
>>
>> I also agree with something Donna said earlier, something that has
> been
>> bothering me for some time in fact. That is the lessening or diluting
> of
>> literacy in the general public. I myself have spent most of my life
>> reading by listening, and the method has served me well. Still, I?d be
>> the first to point out that a great deal is missed when the reader
>> doesn?t have direct contact, interaction with the words on the page.
> But
>> even among sighted children the trend seems to be to switch to
>> listening. Maybe this is the SF writer in me taking over, but,
>> extrapolating the trend, I can foresee a time when there will again be
>> literate classes, in this case writers and actors, and unlettered
>> classes, everybody else. That?s certainly not a world I want to live
> in.
>>
>> Brad, LOL
>>
>> Solidarity and Peace,
>> Kerry
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:51:30 -0600
> From: Brad Dunse <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoody bit
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> Thanks Donna and all. A day of spreadsheet
> configurations yuck. Maybe I'll do a free-for-all
> object write later to purge that built up energy :).
>
> Brad
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On 1/5/2011  12:12 PM Donna Hill said...
>>Brad, Good job. You are a very creative man.
>>Donna
>>
>>Read Donna's articles on
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> 74
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>>Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>www.padnfb.org
>>
>>
>>On 1/5/2011 9:14 AM, Brad Dunse wrote:
>>>for a little self-amusement this morning :)
>>>
>>>The store manager was new so I suppose you
>>>really couldn't blame him. I don't think he had
>>>much experience in this sort of thing before,
>>>but after an incident such as this, I'm sure
>>>he's learned a thing or two. A few of us tried
>>>to tell him early on but it was as if he didn't
>>>even hear us, or as if he couldn't understand
>>>us at all. It was almost like he didn't speak
>>>our language. Well, anyway? we didn't push too
>>>hard because we had heard he was a bit hot
>>>under the collar, though you really would not
>>>have thought that by just looking at him. I
>>>mean his white pressed short sleeved shirt and
>>>bright tan slacks were? hmmm alright. I mean
>>>the slacks weren't that dark so they were OK. I
>>>mean he couldn't wear white slacks too or he'd
>>>look like a doctor or something, you know, too
>>>clean and proper. No, the light tan slacks were
>>>OK, too dark and well, you know, *spoken in a
>>>whisper* the darky slacks? no matter how you
>>>try to contrast them? because of their color
>>>they just send the wrong message you know.
>>>
>>>I on the other hand, with my official medium
>>>sky blue long sleeves, neatly pressed chest
>>>pockets, stiff unwrinkled collar standing proud
>>>atop the wide shoulders, sharply contrasted
>>>dark blue slacks creased commanding municipal
>>>respect being tied off at the waist by a shiny
>>>black leather belt, knew this sort of thing
>>>happens from time to time. I might have
>>>expected it too from the murmuring I thought I heard earlier on in the
> evening.
>>>
>>>I'd say it happened somewhere around 11:00PM,
>>>shortly after closing time and all the store
>>>personnel had gone home for the night. The
>>>place was dark and only the security lights lit
>>>certain areas of the store. The dress shirt
>>>section was well lit and out in the open, as
>>>was the tank tops and plane sweat shirts. Even
>>>the wild carefree T-shirts with their brazen
>>>multi-colored logos slapped on them like cheap
>>>chest tattoos were out in the open. There were
>>>others though that were hidden in the shadows
>>>of the security lights. If anyone should have
>>>been hidden from the light it should really
>>>have been the negligees and unmentionables but
>>>no, it wasn't that way, not like other stores
>>>with? well you see, this is where the store
>>>manager? well I'm sure he knows now, but it
>>>always has to come to something like this before anything is done
> about it.
>>>
>>>As I said I think it had to be a little after
>>>11:00PM, shortly after closing time, maybe
>>>11:30PM I'm not really sure. I was standing
>>>there quiet-like, the store was all still. And
>>>out of the buzzing noise of the scantly
>>>illuminating fluorescents, I thought I heard
>>>this whispering. At first I wasn't sure but
>>>then it seemed to get louder. Sure enough I
>>>began to hear these voices and right away I
>>>knew what was happening. Their accent and
>>>dialect gave them away even in the darkness. As
>>>the murmuring grew louder I began to pick out what was being said.
>>>
>>>"Look at you mon weeth your foncy stripes and
>>>pressed coalars... get a load ofe deece guy
>>>mon... oh... tsk tsk tsk. Aw. Jew popped a
>>>coople boatens. Aw Chus like deece one here, dos a shame mon".
>>>
>>>I knew right then we had trouble and it wasn't
>>>going to be pretty. But what was I to do. The
>>>manager had me clipped up on the display wall
>>>with arms stretched out like I was being
>>>crucified. I'm telling you, I mean I'm not
>>>saying? I'm just saying. You know, I think the
>>>manager had a lot of missed responsibility
>>>here. New or not, well anyway, I could hear
>>>things were heating up from another section ...
>>>
>>>"Hey man look at this feller. he's a thinkin'
>>>he's purdy smart wit dat Rayon tag he's a sportin' there. Well I'll
> just..."
>>>
>>>And then I heard this horrible tearing sound. I
>>>mean he made off like he was going to rip off
>>>just the tag but it sounded like he tore the
>>>whole arm off the guy. All this was happening
>>>just around the corner where I couldn't quite
>>>get a good look at who the trouble makers were,
>>>but I knew. Oh, I knew alright. It was easy for
>>>the cops to tell too when they finally came in the next morning.
>>>
>>>But anyway pinned helpless there I heard
>>>another scream, I looked and finally I could
>>>see something of what was going on just outside
>>>of the shadows. It was coming from the negligee section.
>>>
>>>"Get your hands off me you, you... you... piece of white... help!
> Help!"
>>>
>>>I looked over and it confirmed my suspicion.
>>>The upper part of his garment was the tell tale
>>>thing but with Lederhosen? I mean that's an odd
>>>combination but these trouble makers, they'll
>>>wear anything for an identity that draws attention to them.
>>>
>>>All of a sudden the voices got louder. The
>>>trouble makers with there accents and dialects
>>>were pushing shoving and ripping everyone off
>>>their hangers. You could hear shirts drop to
>>>the floor, some in just a protective fetal
>>>position, and others because they were yanked
>>>off the rack, thrown down and stomped. Screams
>>>and torrents of obscenities rang out along with
>>>fabric names. Cotton, Rayon, Wool, Polyester
>>>Blend, you name it and it was yelled out just
>>>before they were beaten or tore to shreds. If
>>>attacking them for their textile ethnicity
>>>wasn't good enough, the troublemakers began
>>>spewing out styles. V-necks, tank tops, button
>>>down, short sleeve, long sleeve, no sleeve, it
>>>didn't matter they were out to make their mark
>>>in the clothing section of the store. cries for
>>>help rang out one after another and like I say,
>>>there I was pinned against the wall in "nail me
>>>to the cross" mode, unable to do anything.
>>>
>>>Well, by the time the store manager got there
>>>in the morning every stitch of clothing was
>>>tossed on the floor. Buttons lay randomly in
>>>the isles along with ripped off collars,
>>>pockets and sleeves. Hangers littered the main
>>>isle next to crumpled broken plastic displays
>>>and metal tubular hanging racks tipped over. I
>>>was lucky enough to have landed face down with
>>>the top of my display wall propped up against
>>>the feet of the denim shirt's round rack that
>>>was in front of me before all this started, so
>>>I wasn't crushed. Yes, every stitch of clothing
>>>was either tore, had its buttons popped, its
>>>buckles wrenched off, or otherwise destroyed.
>>>When the humans walked in only one set of
>>>garments was left sitting untouched and only
>>>slightly misarranged according to size as if
>>>they scampered to return to the rack before someone saw.
>>>
>>>That's when they knew who caused all this
>>>trouble. Those troublemakers the hoodys. Its
>>>always the hoodys, you can't trust a one of
>>>them I tel ya. And it doesn't matter if they
>>>have draw straps, are pull overs or zip, have
>>>tattoos on their chest like the T-shirts or
>>>not. No matter what color, solid or
>>>multi-colored, they all were there hanging
>>>presuming innocence while the rest of us lay in
>>>a shambles on the store manager's pretty little floor.
>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:01:18 -0500
> From: "Ashley  Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
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> That's right; jaws can't speak pure english or have accents.  Yes the
> word
> is pronounced like it has a J but its a g.
>
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>
>
>> JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially with
> the
>> right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest and
> West.
>> But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in Hebrew and
> our
>> CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a Hebrew word, I'll
>
>> attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should become more
> international.
>> BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese and Japanese populations?
>> Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>
>>
>>> interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>> my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for the g
> in
>>> thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>> thanks judith.
>>> jc
>>>
>>> At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My husband
> had
>>>>it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the wedding with
> his
>>>>leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word thingy since my
> kids
>>>>were little, and they're not little any more.  Their kids are, but I
>>>>won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word thingy was just
> convenient
>>>>when something couldn't be identified or it's use was questionable.
> For
>>>>example, my sons always built "thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome
> home
>>>>Linda, Judith
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR"
>
>>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his wife.
> *heart
>>>>>thingies*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and promptly
> got
>>>>>very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is her
> first
>>>>>day really feeling much better.
>>>>>
>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>
>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words is
>>>>>"thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language, grammar,
>>>>>spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the plural as
> t h
>>>>>i n g y s.
>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the
> problems
>>>>>of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>jc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:08:02 -0500
> From: "Ashley  Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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> Marion, I agree that was oversensative. That word does not have racial
> conotations; at least not that I know. I was not alive in the 50s.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
> To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's
> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>
>
>> Hi Marion,
>> Overly sensative, indeed! As a '50s kid, I don't remember hoodlum
> having
>> any racial overtones, and that was in the day when no one kept their
>> racial slurs in check. Our neighborhood was all white and we had
> hoodlums.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> Read Donna's articles on
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>> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
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>>
>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>> www.padnfb.org
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2011 8:37 AM, Marion Gwizdala, M.S. wrote:
>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum"
> to
>>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school
> system.
>>> There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming it was a
>>> racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive response!
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron"
> <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45
> years
>>>> ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we called
>
>>>> hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets and
> looked
>>>> mean as bad.  Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR"
>>>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Donna,
>>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men
>>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was
> slang
>>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>> jc
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>> On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel
> and
>>>>>> there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws'
>>>>>> pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded
> sweatshirts.
>>>>>> According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are
> acceptible.
>>>>>> Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my
>>>>>> character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and
> named
>>>>>> a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is -- is
> that
>>>>>> she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees, thinking
> it
>>>>>> was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like the one
> ending in
>>>>>> 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic first names as a
> boy's
>>>>>> name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had any luck at
> tracking
>>>>>> down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read Donna's articles on
>>>>>> Suite 101:
>>>>>> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
>>>>>> Ezine Articles:
>>>>>> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
>>>>>> American Chronicle:
>>>>>> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connect with Donna on
>>>>>> Twitter:
>>>>>> www.twitter.com/dewhill
>>>>>> LinkedIn:
>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
>>>>>> FaceBook:
>>>>>> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>>>>>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>>>>>> Apple I-Tunes
>>>>>>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>>>>>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>>>>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>>>>> www.padnfb.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>> JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially
> with
>>>>>>> the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest
> and
>>>>>>> West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in
>>>>>>> Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in
> a
>>>>>>> Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should
>>>>>>> become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for
> Chinese
>>>>>>> and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR"
>>>>>>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>> my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for
> the g
>>>>>>>> in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>> thanks judith.
>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My
> husband
>>>>>>>>> had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the
> wedding
>>>>>>>>> with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word
> thingy
>>>>>>>>> since my kids were little, and they're not little any more.
> Their
>>>>>>>>> kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word
>>>>>>>>> thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be
> identified or
>>>>>>>>> it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons always built
>>>>>>>>> "thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>
>>>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his
> wife.
>>>>>>>>>> *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and
>>>>>>>>>> promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>> just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>> she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is
> her
>>>>>>>>>> first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words
> is
>>>>>>>>>> "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language,
> grammar,
>>>>>>>>>> spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the
> plural
>>>>>>>>>> as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>> whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the
>
>>>>>>>>>> problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:10:15 -0500
> From: "Ashley  Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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> Woe, this is confusing. Is hoodlum slang?
> It does not sound racist. That word was not used in my public schools;
> I'm
> younger than most of you.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's
> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>
>
>> Now it's gone too far!  A Hoodlum is a racial slur?  I went to an
> eighty
>> percent black school.  All the hoods in my school were white.  Out of
> fear
>> of being labeled racist, I won't tell you the common nationality of
> all
>> the hoods.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:37 AM
>> Subject: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum"
> to
>>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school
> system.
>>> There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming it was a
>>> racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive response!
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45
> years
>>>> ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we called
>
>>>> hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets and
> looked
>>>> mean as bad.  Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Donna,
>>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men
>>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was
> slang
>>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>> jc
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel
> and
>>>>>>there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws'
>>>>>>pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded sweatshirts.
>
>>>>>>According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are
> acceptible.
>>>>>>Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my
>>>>>>character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and
> named
>>>>>>a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is -- 
>>>>>>is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees,
>>>>>>thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like
> the
>>>>>>one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic first
>>>>>>names as a boy's name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had any
>
>>>>>>luck at tracking down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>Donna
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially
> with
>>>>>>>the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest
> and
>>>>>>>West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in
> Hebrew
>>>>>>>and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a
> Hebrew
>>>>>>>word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should become
> more
>>>>>>>international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese and
> Japanese
>>>>>>>populations? Judith
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR"
>>>>>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for the
> g
>>>>>>>>in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My
> husband
>>>>>>>>>had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the
> wedding
>>>>>>>>>with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word
> thingy
>>>>>>>>>since my kids were little, and they're not little any more.
> Their
>>>>>>>>>kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word
>>>>>>>>>thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be identified
> or
>>>>>>>>>it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons always built
>>>>>>>>>"thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>>>>>>>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his
> wife.
>>>>>>>>>>*heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and
>>>>>>>>>>promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is
> her
>>>>>>>>>>first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words is
>
>>>>>>>>>>"thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language, grammar,
>
>>>>>>>>>>spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the
> plural
>>>>>>>>>>as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the
>>>>>>>>>>problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:11:10 -0500
> From: "Ashley  Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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> What was their nationality?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>
>
>> Yes Donna, but back then all hoods had a common nationality, at least
> in
>> Buffalo.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>> To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's
>> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>> Hi Marion,
>>> Overly sensative, indeed! As a '50s kid, I don't remember hoodlum
> having
>>> any racial overtones, and that was in the day when no one kept their
>>> racial slurs in check. Our neighborhood was all white and we had
>>> hoodlums.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> Read Donna's articles on
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>>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>> www.padnfb.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2011 8:37 AM, Marion Gwizdala, M.S. wrote:
>>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum"
> to
>>>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school
>>>> system. There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming
> it
>>>> was a racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive
> response!
>>>>
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron"
> <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45
>>>>> years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we
>
>>>>> called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets
> and
>>>>> looked mean as bad.  Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR"
>>>>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men
>
>>>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was
> slang
>>>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>> On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my
> novel
>>>>>>> and there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws'
>
>>>>>>> pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded
> sweatshirts.
>>>>>>> According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are
> acceptible.
>>>>>>> Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my
>>>>>>> character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and
>>>>>>> named a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is
> --
>>>>>>> is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees,
>>>>>>> thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like
> the
>>>>>>> one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic
> first
>>>>>>> names as a boy's name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had
> any
>>>>>>> luck at tracking down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> www.padnfb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>> JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially
> with
>>>>>>>> the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South,
> Midwest
>>>>>>>> and West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words
> in
>>>>>>>> Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears
> in a
>>>>>>>> Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should
>
>>>>>>>> become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for
> Chinese
>>>>>>>> and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>> my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for
> the g
>>>>>>>>> in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>> thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My
>>>>>>>>>> husband had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed
> the
>>>>>>>>>> wedding with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the
>
>>>>>>>>>> word thingy since my kids were little, and they're not little
> any
>>>>>>>>>> more.  Their kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma
> email.
>>>>>>>>>> The word thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be
>
>>>>>>>>>> identified or it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons
>
>>>>>>>>>> always built "thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda,
>
>>>>>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday
> M.A.
>>>>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his
> wife.
>>>>>>>>>>> *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and
>>>>>>>>>>> promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>> just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>> she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today
> is
>>>>>>>>>>> her first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words
> is
>>>>>>>>>>> "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language,
> grammar,
>>>>>>>>>>> spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the
> plural
>>>>>>>>>>> as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>> whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out
> the
>>>>>>>>>>> problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:14:23 -0500
> From: "Ashley  Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods and Hoodlums- writing exercise?
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> Bridgit,
> Thanks for clearing that up. I did not think it denoted
> race.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:09 AM
> Subject: [stylist] Hoods and Hoodlums- writing exercise?
>
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Hoodlum, or hood, does not denote race, ethnicity, nationality or even
>> gender.  For anyone to attach this word to a particular group is
>> perpetuating stereotypes.
>>
>> Anyhow, to utilize this tangent, perhaps we can try writing a short
>> scene using this word (or concept) as the impetus.  It would be
>> interesting to see what we can come up with.
>>
>> Bridgit P
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:25:31 -0500
> From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
> To: cosmoscat at earthlink.net
> Cc: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>, Kerry
> Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
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> Kerry,
> I hope it does as well.
> Donna
>
> Read Donna's articles on
> Suite 101:
> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
> Ezine Articles:
> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
> American Chronicle:
> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>
> Connect with Donna on
> Twitter:
> www.twitter.com/dewhill
> LinkedIn:
> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
> FaceBook:
> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>
> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
> Apple I-Tunes
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>
> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
> www.padnfb.org
>
>
> On 1/5/2011 5:20 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>> Donna, You're right about the lack of a draft making it much easier
>> for those not connected with the military to turn away. At the same
>> time, there is much more media coverage of the plight of the wounded
>> and of their families than I remember during Vietnam. Of course, I was
>
>> very young, only eleven, when Vietnam ended, so my memory may not be
>> all that reliable. Still it is true that the  mainstream media run a
>> lot of stories, and many of them not feel-good success stories, about
>> returning vets. So, though there isn't the threat that "your" son or
>> daughter, niece or godson will be drafted, still anyone who watches
>> network news knows what's going on.
>>
>> Also, lack of a draft doesn't necessarily mean lack of contact. In my
>> own limited circle of friends, my best friend's sister had multiple
>> deployments to Iraq and another friend's sister is a nurse who has
>> served in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
>>
>> Guess I don't really have a point except to hope that, this time, some
>
>> good will come to our society of all the suffering.
>>
>> Solidarity and Peace,
>> Kerry
>>
>> On 1/5/2011 4:10 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>>> Kerry,
>>> True, a higher percentage of wounded vets are now living with severe
>>> disabilities, but I think back to Vietnam. The sheer numbers of
>>> wounded, killed and disabled were so vastly higher than we have seen
>>> in Iraq and Afghanistan that even though a higher percentage are
>>> surviving today, there were still many more individuals surviving
>>> after Vietnam. Guess I'm just saying I don't hold out much hope for
>>> this to make a difference, especially since we now have an all
>>> volunteer armed forces and it's easier for people to turn away from
>>> the problems because they don't have the universal concern that it
>>> could be their loved ones.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> Read Donna's articles on
>>> Suite 101:
>>> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
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>>> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>>
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>>>
>>> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>>> Apple I-Tunes
>>>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>>>
>>>
>>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>> www.padnfb.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2011 3:19 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>>> Donna,
>>>>
>>>> Free associating a bit here:  There have always been wounded i.e.
>>>> disabled veterans. But, with so many more wounded, with such
>>>> horrific injuries, surviving from Iraq and Afghanistan, coupled with
>
>>>> the fact that so many of them are so young,maybe the wall between
>>>> able bodied and disabled will finally start to crumble. These kids
>>>> are going to need serious care and serious societal change for many
>>>> years to come. Of course, it's already been ten years. How much
>>>> longer, how many more ordinary kids turned into desperately disabled
>
>>>> citizens is it going to take before the able bodied get the  message
>
>>>> that, to paraphrase Pogo, they have met the disabled and they are
> us?
>>>>
>>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>>> Kerry
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2011 8:56 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>> Thanks for the Damaris link. I know in high school, her teachers
>>>>> still called her Damari. If I can find her, I'll use whatever
>>>>> spelling she uses. If not, it'll stay Damari. Thanks for the
>>>>> liberating comments about using whatever one I like.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as Braille and literacy ... I think one of the understated
>>>>> issues with Braille literacy is that society is undergoing a
>>>>> blurring of standards for literacy in general, which is a shame. I
>>>>> really don't think people get that audio learning isn't the same as
>
>>>>> Braille or print. When I do radio interviews, I do often ask a
>>>>> sighted host how they would feel if their child came home with the
>>>>> happy news that he/she no longer needed to study reading, because
>>>>> the teacher thinks they're such a good listener. Of course, it
>>>>> isn't OK for sighted children to just listen, when you put it to
>>>>> them that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your comments about the fact that literacy for all should be
>>>>> the goal and we aren't second class ... I think that this is what
>>>>> Shawn was talking about when he mentioned that we need to make
>>>>> blindness and how we cope with it relevant to the general public.
>>>>> To most people, blind people are not equal. I say this not merely
>>>>> out of experience and observation but because it is what pollsters
>>>>> learn when they canvass non-disabled Americans on their beliefs
>>>>> about people with disabilities. The report I often cite from the
>>>>> early '90s says the general public views people with disabilities
>>>>> as "fundamentally different from the rest of the population." I
>>>>> don't think there's any other way to frame that other than by
>>>>> saying that we are in the minds of our fellow Americans second
>>>>> class. It always reminds me of the movie "Children of a Lesser God"
>
>>>>> which dealt withdeafness.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to get John & Jane Q. Public to understand the injustice
>>>>> of only 10% of blind children being literate or over 70% of blind
>>>>> adults being unemployed,  we have to first convince them that we
>>>>> are part of them, and that there's no reason they have to carry us
>>>>> on their backs. All too often the success stories of blind people
>>>>> are presented and viewed as isolated instances of inspiring
>>>>> individuals who surmounted insurmountable obstacles to get
>>>>> somewhere that can't really be expected of blind people in general.
>
>>>>> The fact that others could achieve if they had the tools, training
>>>>> and the attitude of these few isn't discussed. I think the public
>>>>> likes to have the occasional blind hero to give them a warm and
>>>>> fuzzy feeling. There wouldn't be as much of that, if we were
>>>>> expected to achieve like everyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think your points about working for equality like other
>>>>> minorities is right on. It's a civil rights issue based on fear and
>
>>>>> prejudice. I don't think the public gets that either. They think we
>
>>>>> are here to be taken care of and to remind them of how good they
>>>>> have it because they can see.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
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> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>>>>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>>>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>>>> www.padnfb.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna, maybe the problem, the barrier, is the emphasis on
>>>>>> "braille." The emphasis needs to be on "reading," however the
>>>>>> individual approaches reading. It sticks in my mind that only ten
>>>>>> per cent of blind children are taught to read braille, i.e. the
>>>>>> method of reading appropriate to them. Only ten percent! How would
>
>>>>>> society at large react if, say, only ten per cent of black
>>>>>> children were taught to read, or ten per cent of Jewish children,
>>>>>> or ten per cent of children from Idaho? It's a question of human
>>>>>> rights. All American children should be taught to read. Someof
>>>>>> them need an alternative method to print. So what? The method
>>>>>> isn't (or shouldn't be) the issue. The issue should be literacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I realize the above sounds naive and utopian. But, I truly
>>>>>> believe it should be the goal. I mean, the phrase "separate but
>>>>>> equal" comes to mind whenever I hear people talk about braille
>>>>>> literacy. Literacy is the goal, full literacy of the entire U.S.
>>>>>> population. For most that will mean print literacy, for some,
>>>>>> braille literacy. But, the two really can't be separated. To read
>>>>>> is to read, whether with the eyes or with the fingers. The false
>>>>>> dichotomy of literacy and braille literacy needs to be removed,
>>>>>> both in our own minds and in themind of John Q. Public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That reminds me. Did Congress ever do anything about the shameful
>>>>>> lack of accessible textbooks for blind schoolchildren? Again, it
>>>>>> seems to me the emphasis needs to be, not on the difference, books
>
>>>>>> in braille, but on the colossal injustice ofany American
>>>>>> schoolchild being denied access to schoolbooks. Again, how would
>>>>>> it be if it were some other group being denied access to schooling
>
>>>>>> or to the necessary books? It wouldn't wash. We have to present
>>>>>> our needs the way Civil Rights and Women's Rights campaigners
>>>>>> presented needs, not as special concessions or favors we're asking
>
>>>>>> for, but as matters of right, of justice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a time when printed books were very rare and valuable.
>>>>>> Now, you can pick up a mass market paperback for five or six
>>>>>> bucks. Braille books are just the same. Now they are dear, but as
>>>>>> demand grows with the increasing literacy of the blind population,
>
>>>>>> prices will come down. That's simple demand and supply. As demand
>>>>>> grows, supply also grows and prices fall. Again, we all, blind and
>
>>>>>> sighted alike, have to stop regarding braille as a specialty item.
>
>>>>>> It's no different from print.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I donno. I just get so frustrated and angry at the conditions we
>>>>>> have to accept, conditions no other minority group would put up
>>>>>> with. We're not subhuman. We're citizens just like anybody else,
>>>>>> and we should have the same rights and expectations...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> End of rant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim, so glad Lynda is on the mend, if slowly. Continuing prayers
>>>>>> and heart thingies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judith, For some reason, I always thought "thingy" was chiefly
>>>>>> British. I've always liked it. Yes, it's a very useful word. It's
>>>>>> strange about the pronunciation. Window-eyes pronounces the
>>>>>> singular with the hard g sound but the plural with the soft g.
>>>>>> Just one of those oddnesses we have to get used to, I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judith, yeah, but it's a generic British just like the generic
>>>>>> American. I imagine British JAWS users get just as frustrated with
>
>>>>>> pronunciation as we do. And, how about the Canadians?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna, I know there's a girl's name Damaris. The way I've heard it
>
>>>>>> pronounced is with the stress on the second syllable. Here's the
>>>>>> page from Behind the Name:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.behindthename.com/name/damaris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Behind the Name does not have a listing for Damari. It sounds like
>
>>>>>> a diminutive to me, probably for Damaris or possibly a nursery
>>>>>> name derived from Rosemarie or Rosemary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The thing is, with a rare or even made up name, you can spell it
>>>>>> any old way you like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim, it's funny you should think the same thing about damari and
>>>>>> Damaris. Great minds...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure "hood" is out of date even now to mean hoodlum etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marion, what race was "hoodlum" supposed to be targeting? Sheesh!
>>>>>> Now, I can see "hooligan" being construed as anti-Irish, maybe,
>>>>>> but "hoodlum?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerry
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> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:44 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] editing question
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> great idea.  Shakespeare is still powerful today.King Lear would be
> another good item to look at for that.
> the www.about.com
> website has  a huge amount of Shakespeare material online and resources.
> jc
>
> At 03:27 PM 1/5/2011, you wrote:
>>You know Othello seems to do a lot of solilikwees, and sorry I
>>spelled that wrong, I know. One might download it or Hamlet from
>>bookshare as I am a little rusty on Shakespeare and hunt for this
>>type of speak-aloud in order to find this type of thing in the text.
>>Just a thought. Anita
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] editing question
>>
>>
>>>I think there may be instances in which both are necessary. For
>>>instance, if the character is thinking (in italics) and recalls
>>>something that was said to him/her and that passage is to be
>>>included as a direct quote, would you use quotes or apostrophe
>>>within the italics?
>>>
>>>Here's a real mind-nummer. Suppose a character is talking outloud
>>>(obviously in standard quotes) and recalls his/her own thought
>>>which itself includes a direct quote from someone else. My guess is
>>>that you'd have quotes around the whole thing, italics for the
>>>whole thought and apostrophes around the recalled direct quote.
>>>Donna
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>>>On 1/5/2011 2:01 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>Perhaps the apostrophe approach is outdated.  Perhaps that style
>>>>stopped with Dickens.  At any rate, that's how I treated thoughts
>>>>or one character quoting another in my book.  Judith
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:51 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] editing question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You know, I thought it should be ' as well but someone told me
>>>>>that was wrong.
>>>>>Scratches her head,
>>>>>Atty
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:35:59 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>, Writer's
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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> Italian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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>
>> What was their nationality?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>> Yes Donna, but back then all hoods had a common nationality, at least
> in
>>> Buffalo.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>>> To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's
>>> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Marion,
>>>> Overly sensative, indeed! As a '50s kid, I don't remember hoodlum
> having
>>>> any racial overtones, and that was in the day when no one kept their
>
>>>> racial slurs in check. Our neighborhood was all white and we had
>>>> hoodlums.
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2011 8:37 AM, Marion Gwizdala, M.S. wrote:
>>>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term
> "hoodlum" to
>>>>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school
>>>>> system. There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming
> it
>>>>> was a racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive
>>>>> response!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron"
> <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45
>
>>>>>> years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys
> we
>>>>>> called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather
> jackets
>>>>>> and looked mean as bad.  Judith
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR"
>>>>>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by
> men
>>>>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was
> slang
>>>>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my
> novel
>>>>>>>> and there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on
> Jaws'
>>>>>>>> pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded
> sweatshirts.
>>>>>>>> According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are
>>>>>>>> acceptible. Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one
> ending in
>>>>>>>> 'y.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my
>
>>>>>>>> character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and
>
>>>>>>>> named a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it
> is --
>>>>>>>> is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees,
>>>>>>>> thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like
> the
>>>>>>>> one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic
> first
>>>>>>>> names as a boy's name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had
> any
>>>>>>>> luck at tracking down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially
>
>>>>>>>>> with the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South,
>>>>>>>>> Midwest and West. But it does come in British.  Since I write
> some
>>>>>>>>> words in Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it
>
>>>>>>>>> appears in a Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws
>
>>>>>>>>> really should become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a
>>>>>>>>> version for Chinese and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>
>>>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>>> my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for
> the
>>>>>>>>>> g in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>>> thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My
>>>>>>>>>>> husband had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed
> the
>>>>>>>>>>> wedding with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using
> the
>>>>>>>>>>> word thingy since my kids were little, and they're not little
> any
>>>>>>>>>>> more.  Their kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma
> email.
>>>>>>>>>>> The word thingy was just convenient when something couldn't
> be
>>>>>>>>>>> identified or it's use was questionable.  For example, my
> sons
>>>>>>>>>>> always built "thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home
> Linda,
>>>>>>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday
> M.A.
>>>>>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his
> wife.
>>>>>>>>>>>> *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and
>>>>>>>>>>>> promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>>> just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>>> she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today
> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> her first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words
> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language,
> grammar,
>>>>>>>>>>>> spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the
>>>>>>>>>>>> plural as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>>> whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out
> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:38:48 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>, Writer's
> Division
> Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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> No, hoodlum is not slang.  When we called someone a hood we didn't care
> if
> it was a proper word, it was just our way of referring to a group of
> people,
> usually guys, who spent their time trying to make someone's life
> miserable.
> Since I stayed away from them and them me, I just know what others told
> me
> about their actions.  Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>
>
>> Woe, this is confusing. Is hoodlum slang?
>> It does not sound racist. That word was not used in my public schools;
> I'm
>> younger than most of you.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's
>> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>> Now it's gone too far!  A Hoodlum is a racial slur?  I went to an
> eighty
>>> percent black school.  All the hoods in my school were white.  Out of
>
>>> fear of being labeled racist, I won't tell you the common nationality
> of
>>> all the hoods.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:37 AM
>>> Subject: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>>
>>>
>>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum"
> to
>>>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school
>>>> system. There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming
> it
>>>> was a racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive
> response!
>>>>
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45
>>>>> years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we
>
>>>>> called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets
> and
>>>>> looked mean as bad.  Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men
>
>>>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was
> slang
>>>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel
> and
>>>>>>>there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws'
>>>>>>>pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded
> sweatshirts.
>>>>>>>According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are
> acceptible.
>>>>>>>Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my
>>>>>>>character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and
> named
>>>>>>>a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is -- 
>>>>>>>is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees,
>>>>>>>thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like
> the
>>>>>>>one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic first
>
>>>>>>>names as a boy's name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had
> any
>>>>>>>luck at tracking down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>Donna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Read Donna's articles on
>>>>>>>Suite 101:
>>>>>>>www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
>>>>>>>Ezine Articles:
>>>>>>>http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
>>>>>>>American Chronicle:
>>>>>>>www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Connect with Donna on
>>>>>>>Twitter:
>>>>>>>www.twitter.com/dewhill
>>>>>>>LinkedIn:
>>>>>>>www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
>>>>>>>FaceBook:
>>>>>>>www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>>>>>>>cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>>>>>>>Apple I-Tunes
>>>>>>>phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25
> 9244374
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>>>>>>>Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>>>>>>Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>>>>>>www.padnfb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>>JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially
> with
>>>>>>>>the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest
> and
>>>>>>>>West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in
>>>>>>>>Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in
> a
>>>>>>>>Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should
>>>>>>>>become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for
> Chinese
>>>>>>>>and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR"
>>>>>>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>>my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for
> the g
>>>>>>>>>in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>>thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My
> husband
>>>>>>>>>>had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the
> wedding
>>>>>>>>>>with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word
> thingy
>>>>>>>>>>since my kids were little, and they're not little any more.
> Their
>>>>>>>>>>kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word
>>>>>>>>>>thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be
> identified or
>>>>>>>>>>it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons always built
>>>>>>>>>>"thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>
>>>>>>>>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his
> wife.
>>>>>>>>>>>*heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and
>>>>>>>>>>>promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is
> her
>>>>>>>>>>>first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words
> is
>>>>>>>>>>>"thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language,
> grammar,
>>>>>>>>>>>spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the
> plural
>>>>>>>>>>>as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the
>
>>>>>>>>>>>problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:55:09 -0500
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [stylist] Latest Edition of my e-newsletter
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> Hello all and happy new year!
>
> besides me having a blog, which I have to say I have been bad and
> haven't worked on it lately, I plan on rectifying this tomorrow.  My
> monthly e-newsletter went out today, so if anyone would like to
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> om>, highlights of the newsletter for January. My partnerships with
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> Speak of the Convention, I have put an article in it as well, plus some
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>
> As in the past, I am looking for people to be focused on each month of
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>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Donna Hill<mailto:penatwork at epix.net>
>  To: Writer's Division Mailing List<mailto:stylist at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:04 PM
>  Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
>
>
>  Agreed, Judith, but now what? How do we get them to see the truth? If
>  people are correct that the root is fear, then what works against
> that?
>  Donna
>
>  Read Donna's articles on
>  Suite 101:
>
> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill<http://www.suite101.com/profile.
> cfm/donna_hill>
>  Ezine Articles:
>
> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill<http://ezinearticles.com/?ex
> pert=D._W._Hill>
>  American Chronicle:
>
> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885<http://www.americanchronicle
> .com/authors/view/3885>
>
>  Connect with Donna on
>  Twitter:
>  www.twitter.com/dewhill<http://www.twitter.com/dewhill>
>  LinkedIn:
>  www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99<http://www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99>
>  FaceBook:
>  www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill<http://www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill>.
>
>  Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>  cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>  Apple I-Tunes
>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>
>  Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>  Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>  Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>  www.padnfb.org<http://www.padnfb.org/>
>
>
>  On 1/5/2011 4:40 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>  > Donna and Carry,  Yes, the numbers of dead and wounded in Viet Nam
> was
>  > staggering, but we have to be focused that even though they are from
>
>  > an all volunteer armed forces, they are still our family and
> friends.
>  > When I worked for the Independent Living Center I proposed a program
>
>  > for the newly handicapped that would encompass the vets returning
> home
>  > permanantly disabled.  I was met with negaticves all the way up the
>  > line.  The truth is people don't want to understand the handicapped.
>
>  > It's a lot easier for them to stereotype and think of themselves as
>  > mightier than you and I because they aren't blind, deaf or
> travelling
>  > in a wheelchair.  Here's a funny anecdote, but you'll see the irony:
>  > I was at a wedding recently.  I was speaking to my friend next to me
>
>  > about recipes since both of us are on low carb.  I told her about a
>  > recipe that I do with eggplant, zucchini, olive oil and grated
>  > cheese.  A woman across the table asked me for the recipe again, she
>
>  > wanted to try it.  A few minutes later I needed to use the lady's
> room
>  > so got up and unfolded my cane.  My friend told me later, "She was
>  > astounded!  You didn't sound handicapped!"
>  > How does blind sound?  How does deaf stand out in a crowd?  How does
>
>  > whealchair travel sound?  Friends, after all these years, all this
>  > progress and our ever increased abilities, the world is not ready to
>
>  > accept us as equal citizens.  Judith
>  > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill"
> <penatwork at epix.net<mailto:penatwork at epix.net>>
>  > To: <cosmoscat at earthlink.net<mailto:cosmoscat at earthlink.net>>
>  > Cc: "Writer's Division Mailing List"
> <stylist at nfbnet.org<mailto:stylist at nfbnet.org>>; "Kerry
>  > Thompson"
> <kethompson1964 at gmail.com<mailto:kethompson1964 at gmail.com>>
>  > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:10 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
>  >
>  >
>  >> Kerry,
>  >> True, a higher percentage of wounded vets are now living with
> severe
>  >> disabilities, but I think back to Vietnam. The sheer numbers of
>  >> wounded, killed and disabled were so vastly higher than we have
> seen
>  >> in Iraq and Afghanistan that even though a higher percentage are
>  >> surviving today, there were still many more individuals surviving
>  >> after Vietnam. Guess I'm just saying I don't hold out much hope for
>
>  >> this to make a difference, especially since we now have an all
>  >> volunteer armed forces and it's easier for people to turn away from
>
>  >> the problems because they don't have the universal concern that it
>  >> could be their loved ones.
>  >> Donna
>  >>
>  >> Read Donna's articles on
>  >> Suite 101:
>  >>
> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill<http://www.suite101.com/profile.
> cfm/donna_hill>
>  >> Ezine Articles:
>  >>
> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill<http://ezinearticles.com/?ex
> pert=D._W._Hill>
>  >> American Chronicle:
>  >>
> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885<http://www.americanchronicle
> .com/authors/view/3885>
>  >>
>  >> Connect with Donna on
>  >> Twitter:
>  >> www.twitter.com/dewhill<http://www.twitter.com/dewhill>
>  >> LinkedIn:
>  >> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99<http://www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99>
>  >> FaceBook:
>  >>
> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill<http://www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill>.
>  >>
>  >> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>  >> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>  >> Apple I-Tunes
>  >>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>  >> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>  >> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>  >> www.padnfb.org<http://www.padnfb.org/>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On 1/5/2011 3:19 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>  >>> Donna,
>  >>>
>  >>> Free associating a bit here:  There have always been wounded i.e.
>  >>> disabled veterans. But, with so many more wounded, with such
>  >>> horrific injuries, surviving from Iraq and Afghanistan, coupled
> with
>  >>> the fact that so many of them are so young,maybe the wall between
>  >>> able bodied and disabled will finally start to crumble. These kids
>
>  >>> are going to need serious care and serious societal change for
> many
>  >>> years to come. Of course, it's already been ten years. How much
>  >>> longer, how many more ordinary kids turned into desperately
> disabled
>  >>> citizens is it going to take before the able bodied get the
> message
>  >>> that, to paraphrase Pogo, they have met the disabled and they are
> us?
>  >>>
>  >>> Solidarity and Peace,
>  >>> Kerry
>  >>>
>  >>> On 1/4/2011 8:56 PM, Donna Hill wrote:
>  >>>> Hi Kerry,
>  >>>> Thanks for the Damaris link. I know in high school, her teachers
>  >>>> still called her Damari. If I can find her, I'll use whatever
>  >>>> spelling she uses. If not, it'll stay Damari. Thanks for the
>  >>>> liberating comments about using whatever one I like.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> As far as Braille and literacy ... I think one of the understated
>
>  >>>> issues with Braille literacy is that society is undergoing a
>  >>>> blurring of standards for literacy in general, which is a shame.
> I
>  >>>> really don't think people get that audio learning isn't the same
> as
>  >>>> Braille or print. When I do radio interviews, I do often ask a
>  >>>> sighted host how they would feel if their child came home with
> the
>  >>>> happy news that he/she no longer needed to study reading, because
>
>  >>>> the teacher thinks they're such a good listener. Of course, it
>  >>>> isn't OK for sighted children to just listen, when you put it to
>  >>>> them that way.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> As to your comments about the fact that literacy for all should
> be
>  >>>> the goal and we aren't second class ... I think that this is what
>
>  >>>> Shawn was talking about when he mentioned that we need to make
>  >>>> blindness and how we cope with it relevant to the general public.
>
>  >>>> To most people, blind people are not equal. I say this not merely
>
>  >>>> out of experience and observation but because it is what
> pollsters
>  >>>> learn when they canvass non-disabled Americans on their beliefs
>  >>>> about people with disabilities. The report I often cite from the
>  >>>> early '90s says the general public views people with disabilities
>
>  >>>> as "fundamentally different from the rest of the population." I
>  >>>> don't think there's any other way to frame that other than by
>  >>>> saying that we are in the minds of our fellow Americans second
>  >>>> class. It always reminds me of the movie "Children of a Lesser
> God"
>  >>>> which dealt withdeafness.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> In order to get John & Jane Q. Public to understand the injustice
>
>  >>>> of only 10% of blind children being literate or over 70% of blind
>
>  >>>> adults being unemployed,  we have to first convince them that we
>  >>>> are part of them, and that there's no reason they have to carry
> us
>  >>>> on their backs. All too often the success stories of blind people
>
>  >>>> are presented and viewed as isolated instances of inspiring
>  >>>> individuals who surmounted insurmountable obstacles to get
>  >>>> somewhere that can't really be expected of blind people in
> general.
>  >>>> The fact that others could achieve if they had the tools,
> training
>  >>>> and the attitude of these few isn't discussed. I think the public
>
>  >>>> likes to have the occasional blind hero to give them a warm and
>  >>>> fuzzy feeling. There wouldn't be as much of that, if we were
>  >>>> expected to achieve like everyone else.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> I think your points about working for equality like other
>  >>>> minorities is right on. It's a civil rights issue based on fear
> and
>  >>>> prejudice. I don't think the public gets that either. They think
> we
>  >>>> are here to be taken care of and to remind them of how good they
>  >>>> have it because they can see.
>  >>>> Donna
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Read Donna's articles on
>  >>>> Suite 101:
>  >>>>
> www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill<http://www.suite101.com/profile.
> cfm/donna_hill>
>  >>>> Ezine Articles:
>  >>>>
> http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill<http://ezinearticles.com/?ex
> pert=D._W._Hill>
>  >>>> American Chronicle:
>  >>>>
> www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885<http://www.americanchronicle
> .com/authors/view/3885>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Connect with Donna on
>  >>>> Twitter:
>  >>>> www.twitter.com/dewhill<http://www.twitter.com/dewhill>
>  >>>> LinkedIn:
>  >>>> www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99<http://www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99>
>  >>>> FaceBook:
>  >>>>
> www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill<http://www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill>.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>  >>>> cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>  >>>> Apple I-Tunes
>  >>>>
> phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25924437
> 4
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>  >>>> Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>  >>>> Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>  >>>> www.padnfb.org<http://www.padnfb.org/>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On 1/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>  >>>>> Hi friends,
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Donna, maybe the problem, the barrier, is the emphasis on
>  >>>>> "braille." The emphasis needs to be on "reading," however the
>  >>>>> individual approaches reading. It sticks in my mind that only
> ten
>  >>>>> per cent of blind children are taught to read braille, i.e. the
>  >>>>> method of reading appropriate to them. Only ten percent! How
> would
>  >>>>> society at large react if, say, only ten per cent of black
>  >>>>> children were taught to read, or ten per cent of Jewish
> children,
>  >>>>> or ten per cent of children from Idaho? It's a question of human
>
>  >>>>> rights. All American children should be taught to read. Someof
>  >>>>> them need an alternative method to print. So what? The method
>  >>>>> isn't (or shouldn't be) the issue. The issue should be literacy.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Yes, I realize the above sounds naive and utopian. But, I truly
>  >>>>> believe it should be the goal. I mean, the phrase "separate but
>  >>>>> equal" comes to mind whenever I hear people talk about braille
>  >>>>> literacy. Literacy is the goal, full literacy of the entire U.S.
>
>  >>>>> population. For most that will mean print literacy, for some,
>  >>>>> braille literacy. But, the two really can't be separated. To
> read
>  >>>>> is to read, whether with the eyes or with the fingers. The false
>
>  >>>>> dichotomy of literacy and braille literacy needs to be removed,
>  >>>>> both in our own minds and in themind of John Q. Public.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> That reminds me. Did Congress ever do anything about the
> shameful
>  >>>>> lack of accessible textbooks for blind schoolchildren? Again, it
>
>  >>>>> seems to me the emphasis needs to be, not on the difference,
> books
>  >>>>> in braille, but on the colossal injustice ofany American
>  >>>>> schoolchild being denied access to schoolbooks. Again, how would
>
>  >>>>> it be if it were some other group being denied access to
> schooling
>  >>>>> or to the necessary books? It wouldn't wash. We have to present
>  >>>>> our needs the way Civil Rights and Women's Rights campaigners
>  >>>>> presented needs, not as special concessions or favors we're
> asking
>  >>>>> for, but as matters of right, of justice.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> There was a time when printed books were very rare and valuable.
>
>  >>>>> Now, you can pick up a mass market paperback for five or six
>  >>>>> bucks. Braille books are just the same. Now they are dear, but
> as
>  >>>>> demand grows with the increasing literacy of the blind
> population,
>  >>>>> prices will come down. That's simple demand and supply. As
> demand
>  >>>>> grows, supply also grows and prices fall. Again, we all, blind
> and
>  >>>>> sighted alike, have to stop regarding braille as a specialty
> item.
>  >>>>> It's no different from print.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> I donno. I just get so frustrated and angry at the conditions we
>
>  >>>>> have to accept, conditions no other minority group would put up
>  >>>>> with. We're not subhuman. We're citizens just like anybody else,
>
>  >>>>> and we should have the same rights and expectations...
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> End of rant.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Jim, so glad Lynda is on the mend, if slowly. Continuing prayers
>
>  >>>>> and heart thingies.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Judith, For some reason, I always thought "thingy" was chiefly
>  >>>>> British. I've always liked it. Yes, it's a very useful word.
> It's
>  >>>>> strange about the pronunciation. Window-eyes pronounces the
>  >>>>> singular with the hard g sound but the plural with the soft g.
>  >>>>> Just one of those oddnesses we have to get used to, I guess.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Judith, yeah, but it's a generic British just like the generic
>  >>>>> American. I imagine British JAWS users get just as frustrated
> with
>  >>>>> pronunciation as we do. And, how about the Canadians?
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Donna, I know there's a girl's name Damaris. The way I've heard
> it
>  >>>>> pronounced is with the stress on the second syllable. Here's the
>
>  >>>>> page from Behind the Name:
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
> http://www.behindthename.com/name/damaris<http://www.behindthename.com/n
> ame/damaris>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Behind the Name does not have a listing for Damari. It sounds
> like
>  >>>>> a diminutive to me, probably for Damaris or possibly a nursery
>  >>>>> name derived from Rosemarie or Rosemary.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> The thing is, with a rare or even made up name, you can spell it
>
>  >>>>> any old way you like.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Jim, it's funny you should think the same thing about damari and
>
>  >>>>> Damaris. Great minds...
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> I'm not sure "hood" is out of date even now to mean hoodlum etc.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Marion, what race was "hoodlum" supposed to be targeting?
> Sheesh!
>  >>>>> Now, I can see "hooligan" being construed as anti-Irish, maybe,
>  >>>>> but "hoodlum?"
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Solidarity and Peace,
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Kerry
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:32:04 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 7
> Message-ID: <4D251B94.7010403 at gmail.com>
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>
> Hi friends,
>
> My goodness, but Stylist is busy today!
>
> Judith, you're right. Simple acceptance with no judgment or negativity
> is all too rare. It's even rarer when you have more than one disability,
>
> as I do. I guess all we can do is work on the people immediately around
> us.
>
> Solidarity and Peace,
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:14:37 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [stylist] Hood exercise
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1205EFEBBED27973C54D993C40A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Here is an attempt at the exercise I prompted.
>
>
>
> Bridgit
>
>
>
> Kimberly sat tapping her finger nails on the side of her laptop.  Her
> stomach grumbled while she tried to concentrate on the hand-out Mr.
> Hansen had distributed to the class.  Papers rustled on nearby desk, and
> pens scratched across fellow students papers.  The clock on the wall
> tick-tocked as she struggled to keep her eyes opened.  Flipping the top
> of her Braille watch up, she checked the time .  She kept popping her
> eyes open and jamming them shut in an attempt to wake herself up.
>
>
>
> "Miss Michaels, are you okay?"
>
>
>
> Kimberly blinked in Mr. Hansen's direction.  Blushing, she played with
> the ear bud cord dangling from her laptop.  "No, sorry."
>
>
>
> Mr. Hansen chuckled.  "This is what happens when they assign classes
> before lunch."
>
>
>
> Kimberly smiled and returned to the assignment.  Placing her ear bud in
> her ear again, she tried to pay attention to the droning electronic
> voice of JAW's.
>
>
>
> Voices punctured the silence shouting in the distance.  Kimberly tilted
> her head trying to make sounds out.  A metallic bang bellowed through
> the empty halls.  She froze, fingers paused above her keyboard.  A
> buzzing surrounded the room as classmates whispered together.  She heard
> the click of the door as it opened.  The muffled shouting formed into
> words.
>
>
>
> "Get back in your rooms!" a disembodied voice yelled.
>
>
>
> The door slammed shut as people rushed down the hall.  The phone by Mr.
> Hansen's desk rang.  His voice quavered as he answered the call.
>
>
>
> Students abandoned the whispering.  Zippers clinked on bookbags, books
> and papers swooshed off of desks.  Keys clacked furiously as students
> sent text messages.  Kimberly, trying to catch her breath, gripped her
> white cane.
>
>
>
> "Kids, we need to stay put-someone in the school is firing shots."
>
>
>
> The tension that had been bubbling on the surface now erupted filling
> the room with commotion.  Kimberly clutched the sides of her desk.  She
> tasted vanilla and cherries as she licked her lips.
>
>
>
> "Calm down-we need to stay calm," Mr. Hansen shouted.
>
>
>
> Kimberly slid down in her chair.  Closing her eyes, she slipped the hood
> of her sweat shirt over her head.  Shrouded by her oversized hoodie, a
> tear trailed down her cheek while she steadied her breathing.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sam eyed the chocolate layered cake tempting him from the corner of his
> desk.  He shuffled numerous reports stacked in front of him.  Checking
> paper reports to electronic ones, he looked up when a knock rapped on
> his door.
>
>
>
> "Hey, Detective Holms-great party.  Ready to retire?"
>
>
>
> "After forty years, I guess it's about time I concentrated on other
> things.  Maybe I'll do some traveling."
>
>
>
> "Headed out, just poppin' in to say good-bye."
>
>
>
> "Hey Stanton, want some cake?"  Sam pushed the cake forward.
>
>
>
> Stanton smiled.  "Already had two pieces-thanks though."
>
>
>
> Sam grunted.  "Sheri has me on a diet."
>
>
>
> "Good luck with that."  Stanton laughed as he walked down the hall.
>
>
>
> Sam rubbed his eyes as he turned back to his reports.  Ready to leave,
> He stood and stretched as the phone rang.
>
>
>
> "Holmes."  His face hardened as he sat back down.  After a minute, he
> sat the phone back in its cradle.  Walking to the door, he shouted out,
> "We have a code red!"
>
>
>
> He slumped back in his chair.  Leaning forward, he held his head in his
> hands.  He turned his eyes up as an officer entered.
>
>
>
> "Code red, sir?"
>
>
>
> Sam sighed.  "A shooting happened out at Southwest high school.  They
> think a student was the shooter."
>
>
>
> "I'll send the APB out, sir."
>
>
>
> "When will these hoodlums learn?"  Sam picked up the phone to call his
> wife.  His last day of work would be a full day.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:43:11 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hood exercise
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
> Bridget, please forgive me, but what exercise?  Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:14 PM
> Subject: [stylist] Hood exercise
>
>
>> Here is an attempt at the exercise I prompted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>>
>>
>> Kimberly sat tapping her finger nails on the side of her laptop.  Her
>> stomach grumbled while she tried to concentrate on the hand-out Mr.
>> Hansen had distributed to the class.  Papers rustled on nearby desk,
> and
>> pens scratched across fellow students papers.  The clock on the wall
>> tick-tocked as she struggled to keep her eyes opened.  Flipping the
> top
>> of her Braille watch up, she checked the time .  She kept popping her
>> eyes open and jamming them shut in an attempt to wake herself up.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Miss Michaels, are you okay?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Kimberly blinked in Mr. Hansen's direction.  Blushing, she played with
>> the ear bud cord dangling from her laptop.  "No, sorry."
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr. Hansen chuckled.  "This is what happens when they assign classes
>> before lunch."
>>
>>
>>
>> Kimberly smiled and returned to the assignment.  Placing her ear bud
> in
>> her ear again, she tried to pay attention to the droning electronic
>> voice of JAW's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Voices punctured the silence shouting in the distance.  Kimberly
> tilted
>> her head trying to make sounds out.  A metallic bang bellowed through
>> the empty halls.  She froze, fingers paused above her keyboard.  A
>> buzzing surrounded the room as classmates whispered together.  She
> heard
>> the click of the door as it opened.  The muffled shouting formed into
>> words.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Get back in your rooms!" a disembodied voice yelled.
>>
>>
>>
>> The door slammed shut as people rushed down the hall.  The phone by
> Mr.
>> Hansen's desk rang.  His voice quavered as he answered the call.
>>
>>
>>
>> Students abandoned the whispering.  Zippers clinked on bookbags, books
>> and papers swooshed off of desks.  Keys clacked furiously as students
>> sent text messages.  Kimberly, trying to catch her breath, gripped her
>> white cane.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kids, we need to stay put-someone in the school is firing shots."
>>
>>
>>
>> The tension that had been bubbling on the surface now erupted filling
>> the room with commotion.  Kimberly clutched the sides of her desk.
> She
>> tasted vanilla and cherries as she licked her lips.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Calm down-we need to stay calm," Mr. Hansen shouted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kimberly slid down in her chair.  Closing her eyes, she slipped the
> hood
>> of her sweat shirt over her head.  Shrouded by her oversized hoodie, a
>> tear trailed down her cheek while she steadied her breathing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam eyed the chocolate layered cake tempting him from the corner of
> his
>> desk.  He shuffled numerous reports stacked in front of him.  Checking
>> paper reports to electronic ones, he looked up when a knock rapped on
>> his door.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Hey, Detective Holms-great party.  Ready to retire?"
>>
>>
>>
>> "After forty years, I guess it's about time I concentrated on other
>> things.  Maybe I'll do some traveling."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Headed out, just poppin' in to say good-bye."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Hey Stanton, want some cake?"  Sam pushed the cake forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stanton smiled.  "Already had two pieces-thanks though."
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam grunted.  "Sheri has me on a diet."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Good luck with that."  Stanton laughed as he walked down the hall.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam rubbed his eyes as he turned back to his reports.  Ready to leave,
>> He stood and stretched as the phone rang.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Holmes."  His face hardened as he sat back down.  After a minute, he
>> sat the phone back in its cradle.  Walking to the door, he shouted
> out,
>> "We have a code red!"
>>
>>
>>
>> He slumped back in his chair.  Leaning forward, he held his head in
> his
>> hands.  He turned his eyes up as an officer entered.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Code red, sir?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam sighed.  "A shooting happened out at Southwest high school.  They
>> think a student was the shooter."
>>
>>
>>
>> "I'll send the APB out, sir."
>>
>>
>>
>> "When will these hoodlums learn?"  Sam picked up the phone to call his
>> wife.  His last day of work would be a full day.
>>
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> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:49:11 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> To: Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>, "Writer's
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
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> Ashley,
> just a note the "whoa" at the beginning of your note should be w h o
> a, as one would command a horse.  w o e is a warning in older english
> or bad tidings.
>
> I am not sure but I think hoodlum was slang but became common english
> through usage as so often happens.
>
> well:
> http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=hoodlum&searchmode=term
>
> one of my favorite resources tells me the word might date to 1870's
> california, san francisco.
> then back to a related word in a german dialect.
>
> www.etymonline.com
> is a great place to learn about words.
> jc
>
> At 06:10 PM 1/5/2011, you wrote:
>>Woe, this is confusing. Is hoodlum slang?
>>It does not sound racist. That word was not used in my public
>>schools; I'm younger than most of you.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's
>>Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:34 AM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>
>>
>>>Now it's gone too far!  A Hoodlum is a racial slur?  I went to an
>>>eighty percent black school.  All the hoods in my school were
>>>white.  Out of fear of being labeled racist, I won't tell you the
>>>common nationality of all the hoods.  Judith
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S."
>>><marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:37 AM
>>>Subject: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums
>>>
>>>
>>>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term
>>>> "hoodlum" to describe some of the less than desirable influences
>>>> in our school system. There was a public outcry against this
>>>> individual, claiming it was a racial slur. In my opinion, this
>>>> was an overly sensitive response!
>>>>
>>>>Fraternally yours,
>>>>Marion Gwizdala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron"
> <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about
>>>>>45 years ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of
>>>>>guys we called hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter
>>>>>leather jackets and looked mean as bad.  Judith
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>>>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Donna,
>>>>>>in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by
>>>>>>men wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>>>>and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was
>>>>>>slang for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>>>>good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my
>>>>>>>novel and there was an instance where I chose a spelling based
>>>>>>>on Jaws' pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded
>>>>>>>sweatshirts. According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or
>>>>>>>h-o-o-d-i-e are acceptible. Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I
>>>>>>>chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of
>>>>>>>my character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago
>>>>>>>and named a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as
>>>>>>>it is -- is that she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband
>>>>>>>disagrees, thinking it was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and
>>>>>>>Damary. I like the one ending in 'i, but that is listed on a
>>>>>>>site with Hispanic first names as a boy's name. I've lost touch
>>>>>>>with her, so haven't had any luck at tracking down the truth of
>>>>>>>the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>Donna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Read Donna's articles on
>>>>>>>Suite 101:
>>>>>>>www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
>>>>>>>Ezine Articles:
>>>>>>>http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=D._W._Hill
>>>>>>>American Chronicle:
>>>>>>>www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Connect with Donna on
>>>>>>>Twitter:
>>>>>>>www.twitter.com/dewhill
>>>>>>>LinkedIn:
>>>>>>>www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
>>>>>>>FaceBook:
>>>>>>>www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
>>>>>>>cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
>>>>>>>Apple I-Tunes
>>>>>>>phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=25
> 9244374
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
>>>>>>>Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
>>>>>>>Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
>>>>>>>www.padnfb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>>JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English,
>>>>>>>>especially with the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in
>>>>>>>>Northeast, South, Midwest and West. But it does come in
>>>>>>>>British.  Since I write some words in Hebrew and our CH sound
>>>>>>>>sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a Hebrew word, I'll
>>>>>>>>attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should become more
>>>>>>>>international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese and
>>>>>>>>Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday
>>>>>>>>M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>>>>my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for
>>>>>>>>>the g in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>>>>thanks judith.
>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My
>>>>>>>>>>husband had it when our youngest son got married.  He
>>>>>>>>>>enjoyed the wedding with his leg up on another chair.  I've
>>>>>>>>>>been using the word thingy since my kids were little, and
>>>>>>>>>>they're not little any more.  Their kids are, but I won't
>>>>>>>>>>bore you with a grandma email.  The word thingy was just
>>>>>>>>>>convenient when something couldn't be identified or it's use
>>>>>>>>>>was questionable.  For example, my sons always built
>>>>>>>>>>"thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday
>>>>>>>>>>M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his
>>>>>>>>>>>wife. *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and
>>>>>>>>>>>promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>>>>just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>>>>she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today
>>>>>>>>>>>is her first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite
>>>>>>>>>>>words is "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with
>>>>>>>>>>>language, grammar, spelling, to further communicate my
>>>>>>>>>>>point I oftenspell the plural as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>>>>whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out
>>>>>>>>>>>the problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>>>>jc
>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:55:51 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Hood exercise
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> good,
> love the food refs.  what's the meaning of the girl's tasting
> cherries and vanilla on her lips?  did I miss something?
>
> and, at this point:
> Sam eyed the chocolate layered cake tempting him from the corner of his
> desk.  He shuffled numerous reports stacked in front of him.  Checking
> paper reports to electronic ones, he looked up when a knock rapped on
> his door.
>
>
> ---I needed a little transition reference.  cue me a little to change
> of place/time/character.
> jc
>
>
> At 08:14 PM 1/5/2011, you wrote:
>>Sam eyed the chocolate layered cake tempting him from the corner of his
>>desk.  He shuffled numerous reports stacked in front of him.  Checking
>>paper reports to electronic ones, he looked up when a knock rapped on
>>his door.
>>
>>
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