[stylist] Story of hoodlum/word limit
Judith Bron
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Tue Jan 11 23:54:23 UTC 2011
Bridget and everyone, This is the life of an author. Write. Edit. Edit
again. What do you do now? That's right, edit again. Judith
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> JC and others,
>
> Descriptive language and imagery are the meat of creative writing.
> Replacing words with strong verbs and nouns creates a much more vivid
> picture. I am always told to watch the use of adverbs, replacing with
> strong verbs. It is difficult, but the result is usually a much better
> written piece.
>
> Including unnecessary info is different than using descriptive language
> even if it ends up being more wordy.
>
> Writing, I find, is not the hard part, it is the revision process!
> *smile*
>
> Bridgit
>
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> 1. Story of hoodlums (Bridgit Pollpeter)
> 2. Story of hoodlums (Bridgit Pollpeter)
> 3. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit (LoriStay at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit (Judith Bron)
> 5. Re: Story of hoodlums (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> 6. Re: Story of hoodlums (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> 7. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit
> (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> 8. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit
> (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> 9. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 17 (Kerry Thompson)
> 10. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit (Judith Bron)
> 11. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 17 (Donna Hill)
> 12. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit
> (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> 13. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 17 (Kerry Thompson)
> 14. Re: stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 17
> (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> 15. White space and other tactics (Robert Leslie Newman)
> 16. Re: White space and other tactics (Anita Adkins)
> 17. Re: White space and other tactics (LoriStay at aol.com)
> 18. Re: Story of hoodlums/choice of verbs (LoriStay at aol.com)
> 19. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit (LoriStay at aol.com)
> 20. Re: Story of hoodlums/word limit (LoriStay at aol.com)
> 21. Check out latest Live Well blog (Bridgit Pollpeter)
> 22. Re: Check out latest Live Well blog (Joe Orozco)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:56:27 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
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> JC,
>
> I really liked the beginning, too, of your story. That imagery just
> sets the whole piece up.
>
> Exercises can really be as long as short as you want, but for this list,
> I guess shorter is better! *smile* When a piece is growing, try
> replacing some of the "tell" with "show." Great little story
> though--nice mood and setting too.
>
> Transitions can be tricky. For screen reading users, adding something
> like at the police station wouldn't hurt, but, at least the way I have
> been taught, that white space is enough to indicate change with out
> stating in the language. Although, at some point you want to establish
> location. Good suggestion to add that in.
>
> Bridgit
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:17:40 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [stylist] Story of hoodlums
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> You have a great mood established. Maybe concentrate on more action.
> The pacing moves quickly in the beginning with Sean running into
> danger--maybe keep this pacing through the entire piece, though it isn't
> bad as is.
>
> Don't bog the narrative down with mentioning proper names too much. A
> lot of the time, you can replace names with he or him without confusing
> reader.
>
> I don't like to rewrite sentences, but one line keeps jumping out at me.
> "But as he heard himself shout this, he heard it shouted in his own face
> twenty-six years before with a stab in his heart." The way this reads
> is that Brendan was literally stabbed in the heart while being shouted
> at. The sentence is a little mucky too. Maybe try something like,
> "With a jolt to his heart, he remembered twenty-six years ago when a
> Knob Hill dandy shouted the same words, looking down his nose at a
> smudged face, street-tough Joey Brandon." Also, if you state his name
> in this sentence, not necessary to repeat it in the following narration.
>
> Watch for clear, precise language with each sentence, but you have a
> knack for the time period. Stick to clear images too because I notice
> this as a strong suit for you. Over all, this little exercise is good
> and has potential for something bigger.
>
> Bridgit
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:12:59 EST
> From: LoriStay at aol.com
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
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> Being a novelist, I know what you mean by having trouble limiting to 500
>
> words!
> Lori
> In a message dated 1/9/11 7:34:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>
>
>> p.s. I did try to emphasize not exactly the opulence but the power of
>> Joab St. Brendan by how he ordered that the uniform be cleaned in? his
>
>> hotel.? and later the reference to the cigars.
>>
>> easily this could've been a 1250-word story.
>> jc
>>
>>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:27:54 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
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> There's a lot that's difficult about being a novelist. If only a
> publisher
> would buy a book that started out with, "Once upon a time" and ended
> with,
> "And they all lived happily ever after." The in between space could be
> dedicated to sleeping. But that's not being a novelist. Lori had the
> best
> advice for cutting down the word count in a story. Lori, correct me if
> I'm
> wrong, but she advised taking out everything that didn't advance the
> plot.
> Judith
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> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
>
>
> Being a novelist, I know what you mean by having trouble limiting to 500
> words! Lori In a message dated 1/9/11 7:34:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com
> writes:
>
>
>> p.s. I did try to emphasize not exactly the opulence but the power of
>> Joab St. Brendan by how he ordered that the uniform be cleaned in his
>> hotel. and later the reference to the cigars.
>>
>> easily this could've been a 1250-word story.
>> jc
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:30:21 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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> thanks Bridgit.
> I enjoyed writing for this.
> jc
>
> At 12:56 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>JC,
>>
>>I really liked the beginning, too, of your story. That imagery just
>>sets the whole piece up.
>>
>>Exercises can really be as long as short as you want, but for this
>>list, I guess shorter is better! *smile* When a piece is growing, try
>
>>replacing some of the "tell" with "show." Great little story
>>though--nice mood and setting too.
>>
>>Transitions can be tricky. For screen reading users, adding something
>>like at the police station wouldn't hurt, but, at least the way I have
>>been taught, that white space is enough to indicate change with out
>>stating in the language. Although, at some point you want to establish
>
>>location. Good suggestion to add that in.
>>
>>Bridgit
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:34:14 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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> yes, that was what I was asking about. that's a good suggestion. my
> first phrase there was actually "knob hill swell" but changed to
> "dandy" because thought some might not know the antiquated meaning of
> "swell."
>
> thank you. I have studied some writers who are good at imagery and
> clear concise imagery really matters.
> yes, this could've been a longer story, I saw at least three ways
> this could have become a lengthy short story.
> thanks for the feedback Bridgit.
> jc
>
> At 01:17 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>You have a great mood established. Maybe concentrate on more action.
>>The pacing moves quickly in the beginning with Sean running into
>>danger--maybe keep this pacing through the entire piece, though it
>>isn't bad as is.
>>
>>Don't bog the narrative down with mentioning proper names too much. A
>>lot of the time, you can replace names with he or him without confusing
>
>>reader.
>>
>>I don't like to rewrite sentences, but one line keeps jumping out at
>>me. "But as he heard himself shout this, he heard it shouted in his own
>
>>face twenty-six years before with a stab in his heart." The way this
>>reads is that Brendan was literally stabbed in the heart while being
>>shouted at. The sentence is a little mucky too. Maybe try something
>>like, "With a jolt to his heart, he remembered twenty-six years ago
>>when a Knob Hill dandy shouted the same words, looking down his nose at
>
>>a smudged face, street-tough Joey Brandon." Also, if you state his
>>name in this sentence, not necessary to repeat it in the following
>>narration.
>>
>>Watch for clear, precise language with each sentence, but you have a
>>knack for the time period. Stick to clear images too because I notice
>>this as a strong suit for you. Over all, this little exercise is good
>>and has potential for something bigger.
>>
>>Bridgit
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:36:50 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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> indeed you do lori!
> should I have a nymph or sprite show up in this old san francisco
> landscape? jc
>
> At 03:12 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>Being a novelist, I know what you mean by having trouble limiting to
>>500 words! Lori
>>In a message dated 1/9/11 7:34:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>>
>>
>> > p.s. I did try to emphasize not exactly the opulence but the power
>> > of Joab St. Brendan by how he ordered that the uniform be cleaned in
>
>> > his hotel. and later the reference to the cigars.
>> >
>> > easily this could've been a 1250-word story.
>> > jc
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:39:46 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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> indeed,
> that's the first question I ask myself when I am reading over the
> composition with an eye to editing or shortening. but I have to
> balance with imagery and effect.
> I could write:
> He ran into the house.
> or for the emotional place in the story, need of the character, etc.,
> maybe it is better to say:
> looking anxiously over his shoulder, he suddenly ran into the house
> for shelter.
>
> jc
>
> At 03:27 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>There's a lot that's difficult about being a novelist. If only a
>>publisher would buy a book that started out with, "Once upon a time"
>>and ended with, "And they all lived happily ever after." The in
>>between space could be dedicated to sleeping. But that's not being
>>a novelist. Lori had the best advice for cutting down the word
>>count in a story. Lori, correct me if I'm wrong, but she advised
>>taking out everything that didn't advance the plot. Judith
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
>>
>>
>>Being a novelist, I know what you mean by having trouble limiting to
>>500 words! Lori
>>In a message dated 1/9/11 7:34:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>>
>>
>>>p.s. I did try to emphasize not exactly the opulence but the power of
>>>Joab St. Brendan by how he ordered that the uniform be cleaned in his
>>>hotel. and later the reference to the cigars.
>>>
>>>easily this could've been a 1250-word story.
>>>jc
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:41:46 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
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> Bridgit,
>
> Style is very much an individual thing. It seems to me, though, that to
> some extent too, it is generational or at least goes in cycles, not to
> say fads. As far as I can tell, white space rather than actual, written
> transitions, came into widespread use only in the last thirty to
> thirty-five years or so. Sure, I use it occasionally, but being a
> conservative old fogy, I tend to look for more, hmmm, organic
> transitions. As you say, it's purely a matter of style.
>
> I still think, though, that white space needs to be handled with care.
> Unless you actually print out the piece yourself, you have no way of
> knowing how or whether the mail reader or web browser or fax machine you
>
> send the manuscript to will render it as you intend. And, how can you be
>
> sure, when your piece is published, that your white space will fall just
>
> where you intend? What if it falls at the end of a page? The reader
> won't even know it's supposed to be there. I guess all I'm saying is,
> white space is in fashion just now, but it hasn't always been and won't
> always be. As with any fashion, you need to approach it with caution and
>
> employ it with moderation.
>
> From a purely writerly point of view, I personally prefer written
> transitions. It goes back to clarity, I guess. The tried and true,
> "Meanwhile, back at the ranch..." type transition leaves no doubt in the
>
> reader's mind that a transition is coming. You can gussy it up a bit,
> integrating it into the narration like this:
>
> Janet sneezed again as she glumly stared out her window, wondering how
> Billy would manage without her.
>
> At that moment, he was shimmying over Mrs. Jones' back fence. He
> waspleased and excited to be on his own, but sorry Janet wouldn't be
> there to see his triumph.
>
> As to your story specifically, some sort of tying together of the high
> school thread with the police station thread would be helpful IMO. Is
> this the same school the retiring cop attended fifty years ago? Is it
> the school his granddaughter attends? Is there some connection between
> him and the blind girl in the first section? Again, I know the
> kaleidoscopic style, where none of the storylines of a story or novel
> ever intersect, is fashionable just now. But, I like connections. To me,
>
> a story with connections is easier to follow and more enjoyable to read
> than one in which each storyline is isolated from the others.
>
> As to your question about how much, as blind writers, we should pander
> to the needs of screen readers: That's not how I look at it. We as blind
>
> and visually impaired writers perceive the world in a fundamentally
> different way than do fully sighted writers. Even those of us with a
> fair amount of eyesight, like myself, and who tend to be pretty visual
> in our writing, also like myself, use nonvisual queues, notice nonvisual
>
> input that the sighted writer is scarcely aware of. So, why not make use
>
> of these details? Why not write about the world as we perceive it? Doing
>
> that, we will not only make our work easier for our blind readers to
> read, whether they access it audibly or through braille, but we will
> also give our sighted readers a richer experience of our created world
> than they might otherwise have.
>
> I'm not saying to make special concessions for our blind readers, I'm
> just saying to be true to our identity and unique perspective as blind
> writers. If that means using more dialogue tags than might currently be
> in vogue, that's fine. If itmeans writing transitional passages rather
> than relying on white space or asterisks, fine. We aren't in competition
>
> with sighted writers. At least, we don't have to out-cool them with
> their current fads. We have to be the best damned writers we can be.
> And, if that means maybe being just a little old fashioned, just a
> little square but clear, easy to read, fun to read, then that's all
> right.
>
> Kerry
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:02:09 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
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> Your sentence makes sense, but I have to see it within the context of a
> paragraph in the story.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
>
>
>> indeed,
>> that's the first question I ask myself when I am reading over the
>> composition with an eye to editing or shortening. but I have to
> balance
>> with imagery and effect.
>> I could write:
>> He ran into the house.
>> or for the emotional place in the story, need of the character, etc.,
>> maybe it is better to say:
>> looking anxiously over his shoulder, he suddenly ran into the house
> for
>> shelter.
>>
>> jc
>>
>> At 03:27 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>>There's a lot that's difficult about being a novelist. If only a
>>>publisher would buy a book that started out with, "Once upon a time"
> and
>>>ended with, "And they all lived happily ever after." The in between
> space
>>>could be dedicated to sleeping. But that's not being a novelist.
> Lori
>>>had the best advice for cutting down the word count in a story. Lori,
>
>>>correct me if I'm wrong, but she advised taking out everything that
> didn't
>>>advance the plot. Judith
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:12 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
>>>
>>>
>>>Being a novelist, I know what you mean by having trouble limiting to
>>>500 words! Lori
>>>In a message dated 1/9/11 7:34:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>p.s. I did try to emphasize not exactly the opulence but the power of
>
>>>>Joab St. Brendan by how he ordered that the uniform be cleaned in his
>
>>>>hotel. and later the reference to the cigars.
>>>>
>>>>easily this could've been a 1250-word story.
>>>>jc
>>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:11:24 -0500
> From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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> Kerry, Bridget and all,
> I want to throw out a third possibility in the transitional narration
> vs white space debate. How about a little of both? When I was writing my
>
> novel, there were many occasions when I did not want to start a new
> chapter, but time had passed between paragraphs. I felt that, even
> though it was clearly indicated in the first sentence of the next
> paragraph that we were no longer in writing class or that a week had
> gone by, I didn't feel like it was enough, so in went an extra line
> break. I don't do it all the time, but when the scene is drastically
> different or the amount of time that has passed seems to indicate a
> pause, I like the white space.
>
> I must say that in Bridget's piece, I was reading line by line, and
> there were so many blank lines after every paragraph that I didn't
> notice that there was actually more white space at the transition in
> question. I don't know what happens when we copy things into our
> e-mails, but I have had cause to wonder before about extra line breaks
> being inserted by the electronic demons.
>
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> On 1/10/2011 6:41 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>> Bridgit,
>>
>> Style is very much an individual thing. It seems to me, though, that
>> to some extent too, it is generational or at least goes in cycles, not
>
>> to say fads. As far as I can tell, white space rather than actual,
>> written transitions, came into widespread use only in the last thirty
>> to thirty-five years or so. Sure, I use it occasionally, but being a
>> conservative old fogy, I tend to look for more, hmmm, organic
>> transitions. As you say, it's purely a matter of style.
>>
>> I still think, though, that white space needs to be handled with care.
>> Unless you actually print out the piece yourself, you have no way of
>> knowing how or whether the mail reader or web browser or fax machine
>> you send the manuscript to will render it as you intend. And, how can
>> you be sure, when your piece is published, that your white space will
>> fall just where you intend? What if it falls at the end of a page? The
>
>> reader won't even know it's supposed to be there. I guess all I'm
>> saying is, white space is in fashion just now, but it hasn't always
>> been and won't always be. As with any fashion, you need to approach it
>
>> with caution and employ it with moderation.
>>
>> From a purely writerly point of view, I personally prefer written
>> transitions. It goes back to clarity, I guess. The tried and true,
>> "Meanwhile, back at the ranch..." type transition leaves no doubt in
>> the reader's mind that a transition is coming. You can gussy it up a
>> bit, integrating it into the narration like this:
>>
>> Janet sneezed again as she glumly stared out her window, wondering how
>> Billy would manage without her.
>>
>> At that moment, he was shimmying over Mrs. Jones' back fence. He
>> waspleased and excited to be on his own, but sorry Janet wouldn't be
>> there to see his triumph.
>>
>> As to your story specifically, some sort of tying together of the high
>> school thread with the police station thread would be helpful IMO. Is
>> this the same school the retiring cop attended fifty years ago? Is it
>> the school his granddaughter attends? Is there some connection between
>
>> him and the blind girl in the first section? Again, I know the
>> kaleidoscopic style, where none of the storylines of a story or novel
>> ever intersect, is fashionable just now. But, I like connections. To
>> me, a story with connections is easier to follow and more enjoyable to
>
>> read than one in which each storyline is isolated from the others.
>>
>> As to your question about how much, as blind writers, we should pander
>> to the needs of screen readers: That's not how I look at it. We as
>> blind and visually impaired writers perceive the world in a
>> fundamentally different way than do fully sighted writers. Even those
>> of us with a fair amount of eyesight, like myself, and who tend to be
>> pretty visual in our writing, also like myself, use nonvisual queues,
>> notice nonvisual input that the sighted writer is scarcely aware of.
>> So, why not make use of these details? Why not write about the world
>> as we perceive it? Doing that, we will not only make our work easier
>> for our blind readers to read, whether they access it audibly or
>> through braille, but we will also give our sighted readers a richer
>> experience of our created world than they might otherwise have.
>>
>> I'm not saying to make special concessions for our blind readers, I'm
>> just saying to be true to our identity and unique perspective as blind
>
>> writers. If that means using more dialogue tags than might currently
>> be in vogue, that's fine. If itmeans writing transitional passages
>> rather than relying on white space or asterisks, fine. We aren't in
>> competition with sighted writers. At least, we don't have to out-cool
>> them with their current fads. We have to be the best damned writers we
>
>> can be. And, if that means maybe being just a little old fashioned,
>> just a little square but clear, easy to read, fun to read, then that's
>
>> all right.
>>
>> Kerry
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:37:35 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
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> indeed Judith,
> another important issue is what is around your sentence. perhaps a
> short snappy sentence is good because you don't want to overshadow
> the blockbuster that's coming soon.
> or maybe you've just exausted the reader's tolerance for adjectives
> and the simple sentence is comforting?
> jc
>
> At 06:02 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>Your sentence makes sense, but I have to see it within the context
>>of a paragraph in the story.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:39 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
>>
>>
>>>indeed,
>>>that's the first question I ask myself when I am reading over the
>>>composition with an eye to editing or shortening. but I have to
>>>balance with imagery and effect.
>>>I could write:
>>>He ran into the house.
>>>or for the emotional place in the story, need of the character,
>>>etc., maybe it is better to say:
>>>looking anxiously over his shoulder, he suddenly ran into the house
>>>for shelter.
>>>
>>>jc
>>>
>>>At 03:27 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>>>There's a lot that's difficult about being a novelist. If only a
>>>>publisher would buy a book that started out with, "Once upon a
>>>>time" and ended with, "And they all lived happily ever
>>>>after." The in between space could be dedicated to sleeping. But
>>>>that's not being a novelist. Lori had the best advice for cutting
>>>>down the word count in a story. Lori, correct me if I'm wrong,
>>>>but she advised taking out everything that didn't advance the plot.
> Judith
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:12 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Being a novelist, I know what you mean by having trouble limiting to
>>>>500 words! Lori
>>>>In a message dated 1/9/11 7:34:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>p.s. I did try to emphasize not exactly the opulence but the power
>>>>>of Joab St. Brendan by how he ordered that the uniform be cleaned in
>
>>>>>his hotel. and later the reference to the cigars.
>>>>>
>>>>>easily this could've been a 1250-word story.
>>>>>jc
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:37:21 -0500
> From: Kerry Thompson <kethompson1964 at gmail.com>
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] stylist Digest, Vol 81, Issue 17
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> Jim,
>
> lol. You and I both have difficulty with 500 words or less. In my own
> case I think of the problem, rather inelegantly, as diarrhea of the pen.
>
> I once tackled a writing exercise from a book. The instructions said to
> write one paragraph to one page. I wrote four pages before crashing.
> Mind you, I've never regretted it. Those four pages are the germ from
> which Marooner's Haven has grown. But, still, it illustrates the point.
> Brevity and I don't play well together. *grin*
>
> BTW if you decide to expand the story, I'd love to see the result.
>
> Though you directed your question to Bridgit, I'm going to stick my oar
> in too. If I were to revise this paragraph, I'd take out the phrase,
> "reprimanding Sean." Removing this phrase tightens and strengthens the
> paragraph IMO.
>
> You wrote:
>
> "yes, Dennis Day could play Sean I think."
>
> And, who to play the great St Brendan? James Cagney, maybe?
>
> Donna's got an idea, there. Another story about Sean, ormaybe another
> chapter in a novel? It can happen. My dragon Christmas stories started
> out as just stories, connected by being about the same characters. But,
> when I asked Robert to read the series, he said it looks suspiciously
> like a novel to him. So, if you accumulate enough stories about Sean...
>
> Kerry
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:11:56 -0600
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> To: cosmoscat at earthlink.net, "Writer's Division Mailing List"
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
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> thanks Kerry,
> yes, I think of it like this. inside my head are these giant
> oversized wheels and gears. once they get cranking, they just can't
> stop at 500-words, LOL!
> I did struggle over the use of "reprimand."
>
> and you and I are indeed on the same wavelength, Cagney was the first
> one I thought of to play the former hoodlum turned great man. three
> ways could expand the story that occurred to me: as noted by bridgit,
> St. Brendan finds out why Sean got so muddy and
> decides to do something about street toughs in san francisco. of
> course this connects more to his own history. vaguely I think there
> were a couple of movies in the 40's made related to this theme, one
> involved boxing I think.
> second, we more follow Sean himself who has been so exemplary but
> falls into the trouble with the hoodlums again. however, because of
> the incident in my story as just presented, St. Brendan has been
> following Sean's life secretly and is able to save him from some
> great danger.
>
> third, does the great man have a wife or family member who knows his
> true history? his wife learns of the event in my story just
> presented. and helps the great man to freely admit who he really is
> and where he really came from. freeing him from hiding his own
> hoodlum past, and in the process he transforms san francisco society
> and culture. in this scenario his wife would be quite a hero indeed.
>
> but like I said, in my head there are these giant wheels and gears ...
>
> thanks Kerry. your Marooner series sure did look good what I read.
> jc
>
>
> At 10:37 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>>Jim,
>>
>>lol. You and I both have difficulty with 500 words or less. In my
>>own case I think of the problem, rather inelegantly, as diarrhea of
>>the pen. I once tackled a writing exercise from a book. The
>>instructions said to write one paragraph to one page. I wrote four
>>pages before crashing. Mind you, I've never regretted it. Those four
>>pages are the germ from which Marooner's Haven has grown. But,
>>still, it illustrates the point. Brevity and I don't play well
> together. *grin*
>>
>>BTW if you decide to expand the story, I'd love to see the result.
>>
>>Though you directed your question to Bridgit, I'm going to stick my
>>oar in too. If I were to revise this paragraph, I'd take out the
>>phrase, "reprimanding Sean." Removing this phrase tightens and
>>strengthens the paragraph IMO.
>>
>>You wrote:
>>
>>"yes, Dennis Day could play Sean I think."
>>
>>And, who to play the great St Brendan? James Cagney, maybe?
>>
>>Donna's got an idea, there. Another story about Sean, ormaybe
>>another chapter in a novel? It can happen. My dragon Christmas
>>stories started out as just stories, connected by being about the
>>same characters. But, when I asked Robert to read the series, he
>>said it looks suspiciously like a novel to him. So, if you
>>accumulate enough stories about Sean...
>>
>>Kerry
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:41:45 -0600
> From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [stylist] White space and other tactics
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> I'm reading a novel, got it from BookShare and am reading it in my PAC
> Mate on the display. It is one of the Pray series, by John Sandford. He
> uses a series of * * space * space at between each little part within a
> chapter. It leaves no doubt that the subject or timeframe has change. I
> like that. (Not saying I wouldn't like another style, but on the white
> space thing --- that would be lost on me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:12:23 -0500
> From: "Anita Adkins" <aadkins7 at verizon.net>
> To: <newmanrl at cox.net>, "Writer's Division Mailing List"
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] White space and other tactics
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> Hello,
>
> I love those Lucas Davenport books. In the book I am writing, I am just
> using white space, only because that is how we were required to do it in
> my
> fiction writing class and because this happens to be a short story that
> I
> feel needs a little separation. In the novel I am working on, I just use
>
> chapter breaks. I don't know if anyone has read any James Patterson, but
> I
> notice his books have many short chapters. Maybe, he uses that technique
>
> instead of white space. I'm not sure since I read his books with audio.
> But,
> if so, that would also be another way someone unable to see the
> whitespace
> could be alerted to it. Have a great day. Anita
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:41 AM
> Subject: [stylist] White space and other tactics
>
>
>> I'm reading a novel, got it from BookShare and am reading it in my PAC
>> Mate
>> on the display. It is one of the Pray series, by John Sandford. He
> uses a
>> series of * * space * space at between each little part within a
> chapter.
>> It leaves no doubt that the subject or timeframe has change. I like
> that.
>> (Not saying I wouldn't like another style, but on the white space
>> thing ---
>> that would be lost on me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:20:57 EST
> From: LoriStay at aol.com
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] White space and other tactics
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> I always use chapter breaks, or smooth over changes of scenes with a
> sentence or two, like, "The next day Mike..." etc.
> Lori
> In a message dated 1/11/11 10:23:43 AM, aadkins7 at verizon.net writes:
>
>
>>
>>
>> I love those Lucas Davenport books. In the book I am writing, I am
>> just using white space, only because that is how we were required to
>> do it in my fiction writing class and because this happens to be a
>> short story that I feel needs a little separation. In the novel I am
>> working on, I just use chapter breaks. I don't know if anyone has read
>
>> any James Patterson, but I notice his books have many short chapters.
>> Maybe, he uses that technique instead of white space. I'm not sure
>> since I read his books with audio. But,
>> if so, that would also be another way someone unable to see the
> whitespace
>> could be alerted to it. Have a great day. Anita
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:26:37 EST
> From: LoriStay at aol.com
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/choice of verbs
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> Sometimes choice of verbs can balance all this better. for example;
> He
> scurried into the house.
> or
> he hastened into the house.
>
> i could probably choose better, but you get the idea. I wouldn't use
> the
> word 'suddenly' as I think that weakens the sentence.
>
> Lori
> In a message dated 1/10/11 6:50:31 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>
>
>> indeed,
>> that's the first question I ask myself when I am reading over the
>> composition with an eye to editing or shortening.? but I have to
>> balance with imagery and effect. I could write:
>> He ran into the house.
>> or for the emotional place in the story, need of the character, etc.,
>> maybe it is better to say:
>> looking anxiously over his shoulder, he suddenly ran into the house
>> for shelter.
>>
>> jc
>>
>>
>
>
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>
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:29:32 EST
> From: LoriStay at aol.com
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
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> Good lord no. But how about a gnome?
> Lori
>
> In a message dated 1/10/11 6:37:46 PM, n6yr at sunflower.com writes:
>
>
>> indeed you do lori!
>> should I have a nymph or sprite show up in this old san francisco
>> landscape?
>> jc
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:31:39 EST
> From: LoriStay at aol.com
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Story of hoodlums/word limit
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> Quite right. And all adverbs that weaken the verbs too.
> Lori
> In a message dated 1/10/11 4:37:04 PM, jbron at optonline.net writes:
>
>
>> There's a lot that's difficult about being a novelist.? If only a
>> publisher
>> would buy a book that started out with, "Once upon a time" and ended
> with,
>> "And they all lived happily ever after."? The in between space could
> be
>> dedicated to sleeping.? But that's not being a novelist.? Lori had the
>
>> best
>> advice for cutting down the word count in a story.? Lori, correct me
> if
>> I'm
>> wrong, but she advised taking out everything that didn't advance the
> plot.
>> Judith
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:36:42 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: Amy Buresh <amy.buresh74 at gmail.com>, Jaime Forbis
> <jkforbis at hotmail.com>, writers division
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>,
> <bentlyk at aol.com>, <vjstoakes at cox.net>,
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> Subject: [stylist] Check out latest Live Well blog
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>
> Hello,
>
> A new blog posted last week. Check it out at
> http://www.livewellnebraska.com
>
> Look for the Meet the Bloggers link then click on my name, Bridgit
> Kuenning-Pollpeter (click on the link with my full name) then you will
> find all my past blogs. The current one is titled Waking from a Low.
>
> Thanks for your support, and pass the news along to anyone you know. It
> is a really good resource.
>
> Bridgit P
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:43:38 -0500
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Check out latest Live Well blog
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> Excellent writing! Here's the direct link to the entries:
>
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
> sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
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> cindybusenbark at cox.net; blcburns at cox.net; salvaradolmt at cox.net;
> jschmidt73 at cox.net; chadtweber at gmail.com; rjbell at cox.net
> Subject: [stylist] Check out latest Live Well blog
>
>
> Hello,
>
> A new blog posted last week. Check it out at
> http://www.livewellnebraska.com
>
> Look for the Meet the Bloggers link then click on my name,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter (click on the link with my full
> name) then you will find all my past blogs. The current one is
> titled Waking from a Low.
>
> Thanks for your support, and pass the news along to anyone you
> know. It is a really good resource.
>
> Bridgit P
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