[stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords

[Neil Butters]

     Hello All,

I think I am defending Chris a bit here. I didn't think there was anything 
wrong with his criticism of Judith's work. Yes, he had some personal 
opinions in there, but he made valid suggestions and comments about her 
writing and style. He also handled his thoughts with sensitivity, not 
wanting to offend Judith.

However, Judith's response was, I think, very inappropriate. It could be 
construed as simply an ad hominum attack. She didn't acknowledge any of 
Chris' criticisms of her writing. Instead, she defended her politics, which 
is not appropriate for this list.

Neil






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From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:41 PM
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords

> Judith,
>
> Was it not you who advocated we not share writing samples with adult 
> content
> on the list last year?  I mean, so long as we're talking about what may or
> may not offend people...  I mean, come on.  Your frustrations with 
> people's
> reactions had nothing to do with editorial feedback but rather with a
> difference in views.  I think it's because you never meant for the piece 
> to
> be critiqued but rather meant for the piece to be an expression of your
> opinions.  I'm totally fine with freedom of expression, and as I've said
> before, I agree with your position.  However, there was no need for the
> concluding lines of your post below.  It's not that the dialogue on this
> list needs to be relegated to bubble gum status.  It's just that: first,
> there's a separate list dedicated to random chatter; and second, there's a
> certain expectation by subscribers that the discussion will concentrate on
> technique and not general reactions in the wake of major events. 
> Otherwise,
> I'd be more than glad to very explicitly share my thoughts on abortion and
> claim I am merely using the list as a writing feedback forum.  I hope my
> comments are taken in the spirit of constructive criticism they are meant.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judith Bron
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:29 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords
>
> Bridget, Thanks for the kind words.  Some on this list were not
> supportive
> of the fact that I didn't believe that blaming an entire
> political group or
> any individuals for the actions of a madman belonged in our
> reaction to the
> senseless deaths of some and grave injury to others.  I was shocked to
> realize that many of you whom I also consider close friends
> took the piece
> to be hostile to those who might not agree that blaming one school of
> political thought was the only way to go in reacting to this
> brutal act.
> The other day I called a friend who holds an MA in Psych to ask
> exactly what
> was meant by schizophrenia.  I had a client with the disorder
> and my best
> way of explaining her problem was not very professional, but exact
> nonetheless.  She was nuts.  She was not hostel or aggressive
> in any way.  I
> used this client's disorder as a jumping off point to
> understand the animal
> who did this despicable act to law abiding citizens on a lovely
> Saturday
> afternoon.  My piece wasn't political, but I hoped it would
> help others to
> step away from the blame game in the Arizona affair.  Obviously
> most of you
> think that one political ad or political dialogue between two
> influential
> politicians was above board because it was obvious that my
> opinions don't
> jive with yours.  So lets talk fiction and descriptions of nice
> people at
> nice parties eating nice treats as authors.  Lets not get into
> anything that
> might offend some bleeding hearts.  JB
>
>
>
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