[stylist] Canes and dogs

Tue May 10 13:31:15 UTC 2011

Steve, Putting aside the discussion of canes and guide dogs, lets just take 
a look at the bottom line is in this discussion.  The freedom of choice all 
of us have when choosing the method best for us as a person.  I've spoken to 
people who wouldn't get a guide dog for love or money.  One lady told me 
that on a cold winter's night her cane didn't have to be walked.  She gets 
where she has to go with her cane.  She just installed a GPS on her cane. 
That sounds really cool!  There are guide dog users who wouldn't have it any 
other way.  The dog's presence gives them a sense of security and meets 
their travelling needs well.  Who's wrong and who's right?  No one.  Does 
the guy who bought a Chevy hate, detest or loathe the guy who bought a Ford? 
Is there anything illegal, indecent or immoral about either choice? 
Obviously not.  This topic is interesting, but I hope all of you are aware 
we have choices to make about everything in life.  Just because a person 
chooses one way over another doesn't make it wrong, just different.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Canes and dogs


> Hi,
>
> This subject has always been one that has interested me.  As a cane user 
> who has tried to be careful to defend the
> rights of persons using canes or dogs, I have always been one who has 
> tried to understand both methods.  What I
> have found in general, though, that no serious discussion of the 
> differences, the strengths and weaknesses of each,
> the attributes of what might make one method work for some and the other 
> for others, can ever occur without things
> breaking down.  I did not see everything that was written in the magazine 
> but have only seen what was written here
> so perhaps I have missed something.  However, I didn't see anything 
> written that said that a dog should not be taken
> to a restaurant, only an interest in understanding why it might be done in 
> the particular situation described.  I did not
> see him say that sighted guide need to be used, I interpreted him to be 
> assuming that a cane would be used because
> it is my understanding that persons who use dogs generally know how to use 
> a cane as well.  What I saw in his writing
> was a guy who was clearly a cane user but who wondered.  I thought he was 
> simply saying that each was a tool and
> why wouldn't one just use whatever tool fit in the same way that those of 
> us prefer to use straight canes might switch
> to a telescopic cane in some cases.  From my perspective, I do understand 
> that people and dogs work as a team and
> that there are always risks when the team is not working together, and 
> that may be the best answer that one might
> give him along with some of the others that were given here.  I can think 
> of a few more answers that I might have
> given such as what if my plans changed.  What if after a nice dinner I 
> decided to walk home instead of taking a cab,
> or if I was on a date, what if the opportunity arose to not return 
> directly home.  There are simply a lot of responses and
> areas to explore without assuming that the question was raised as a 
> die-hard intollerant cane user.  There are some of
> those who use canes, and there are even some who use dogs.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Mon, 09 May 2011 15:56:35 -0500, Brad Dunse' wrote:
>
>
>>>You know I saw a Chevy in the ditch the other day, they can't even
>>>stay on the road... people just can't drive right when they drive a
>>>Chevy. Always bumping into things and stuff. Now I know if they had
>>>a Toyota... well, that just wouldn't have happened at all. I mean I
>>>drive a Toyota and never have issues running off the road or bumping
>>>into stuff. Driver's are going to get a bad reputation for
>>>running   off roads. I've told them time and time again  I'm right
>>>about this but they don't listen. We ought eliminate Chevy's before
>>>pedestrians get the wrong idea  about people behind the wheel.
>>Plagerized word exchange below...
>
>>In response to Feature Writer Alena Roberts - Deciding When to Take Your
>>flip flops With You
>>I would like to express my opinion on the question posed by Alena Roberts;
>>namely, when to take and when not to take your flip flops. I come at this
>>from a point of view which Alena may not have expected--I am a blind 
>>person
>>who has always used sneakers and does not want flip flops. I have 
>>sometimes
>>not understood why my flip flop using friends drag their flip flops
>>along. Here is a
>>scenario which is difficult for me to understand.
>>You are taking a cab to a restaurant, maybe by yourself, maybe to meet a
>>friend. You will then take a cab home.
>>1. You go from the door of your house to the cab.
>>2. You go from the cab to the door of the restaurant, where the host or a
>>waiter/waitress helps you find a table.
>>3. You repeat the process in reverse, restaurant to cab, cab to home.
>>You are not really doing any independent travel. Why, then, do you need 
>>your
>>flip flops? It seems to me that it's a lot of trouble and hassle to
>>take flip flops on
>>such an occasion, not to mention that the flip flops may be in the way at 
>>the
>>table, or in the cab. Why not use your sneakers?
>>I don't even understand why Ms. Roberts says she "dislikes using
>>sneakers. Sneakers are merely a tool, like a hammer or screw driver.
>>I use it when I need
>>it, and I'm glad to have it. I can't even imagine wanting flip flops.
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>>Brad Dunse
>
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>>  then smiling at  what was written. --Anonymous
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