[stylist] Canes and dogs

jack and bakey braille_cat at jammerman.net
Thu May 12 06:47:38 UTC 2011


Well with the caveat that you do so safely! Take my word for it.  
Yall do not wanna get run over.  I have and do Not recommend it.
Jack


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com
>To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 12 May 2011 01:30:57 -0400
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Canes and dogs

>I found that it doesn't matter what mode of mobility to choose to 
get from
>point a to point b, just as long as you get there.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Donna Hill
>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:06 PM
>To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Canes and dogs

>Here, here.  Well stated, Bridgit.  Supporting one another is 
allowing for
>different choices and applauding success regardless of the 
method.

>Donna


>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:50 PM
>To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [stylist] Canes and dogs

>At the risk of being taken out of context and accused of 
intolerance and
>asserting my way is the only way, I will make a comment on this 
topic.

>In fact, perhaps I should point-blank state that I only speak 
from my
>personal experience, but I'm not suggesting or implying my way is 
best.
>Hopefully this is good enough for some who like to interpret my 
post on
>alternative skills as being close-minded and not allowing others 
to
>express their opinions.

>For those of us who use a cane, it is the only way we know how to 
to
>travel with an independent tool.  I learned the cane and have 
never used
>a dog- the cane is what I am familiar with.  I'm not so arrogant 
to
>assume that another method is not as effective though.

>I've met many blind people who believe a dog is not an effective 
tool
>nor can a person be truly independent with a dog.  These people 
are
>ignorant of how a dog is used, and to be honest, anyone unwilling 
to be
>open-minded is hurting themselves and society.

>The person who wrote into the editor obviously is a moron who is
>intolerant and probably not a great example of a competent, 
positive
>blind person.

>Of course when I make recommendations to people, I will tell them 
to use
>a cane with the small metal tip and make sure it is at least up 
to their
>chin, but only because this is what I know and what has worked 
for me.
>None of us can speak much on any method we are not familiar with.

>My goal is for any blind person to be as independent as possible, 
and if
>a dog, or some other method, works to accomplish that for you, 
then
>there is nothing wrong with it.  Judgment does go both ways, but 
no one
>should question a persons motives and claim they can not be 
independent
>due to a tool or method.  To be honest, I see way to much 
judgment and
>intolerance among blind people, especially in the NFB.

>In the Federation, our ultimate goal is suppose to be 
independence and
>reaching our full potential.  If we are doing that, why should it 
matter
>what tools and methods we use?

>I believe officially supporting one tool, method, skill, is just 
opening
>the gate to prejudice and judgment.  Obviously you have to use 
what is
>most efficient, but if you are reaching independence and success, 
no one
>should be stating that one way is better, or the only way.  We 
just
>create more problems by these attitudes.

>I think it was good a response was made to this fools comments.  
There
>are cane and dog users who are great, and there are others who 
could use
>some help to learn each respective tool better.  But don't assume 
one is
>better than another.  Both are viable, efficient tools when used
>properly.

>Bridgit


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