[stylist] Old English truly frustrates me

Fri Nov 4 21:05:58 UTC 2011

Hi Brenda,
Right about now, I'm thinking that I need to learn more about poetry than I know now, and I'm comparing that state of mind to someone who walks into Music Appreciation class with a background of doo wap and country. I mean, you have to figure out how to go from beer and whisky to fine wine, but if you do it all at once, you sure ain't gonna understand what's going on with the taste buds. So anybody for wine cooler poetry?

Thanks.

Jim

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Hi Jim
I just love the way you put that.

Brenda

On 11/4/2011 2:19 PM, Homme, James wrote:
> Hi,
> OK. Who are some poets that beginning poetry people would get something out of other than a headache?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
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> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
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> Let's see, who is it?  Robert Browning?  He writes poems in the Scottish
> style.  At least I think it's him.
> That's even worse to understand than Shakespearean English.
> Barbara
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Homme, James
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> Hi Bridget,
> I stand corrected and frustrated. I'm going to find an anthology of poetry,
> so I can attempt to get some culture.<grin>
>
> Jim
>
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> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
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>
> Jim,
>
> Actually, the King James Bible and Shakespeare are not old English but
> early modern English. Old English doesn't sound anything like modern
> English instead sounding like a foreign language. Not only would old
> English be incomprehensible to most of us, but written material in old
> English would still follow medieval writing structure which was before
> most grammar rules existed like spaces between words, punctuation,
> capitalization and paragraphs.
>
> Understanding early modern English can be difficult. Personally, I never
> found "getting the gist" of early modern English difficult, but certain
> words weren't familiar to me. It helps to read with a dictionary and any
> study material you can find to supplement your reading. It may take some
> longer to read material like this, and others can pick it up a bit
> quicker. It's just a more archaic manner of speaking than we currently
> speak, but it is modern English, not old English or even middle English,
> but early modern English.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at:
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
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> Hi,
> I went to http://www.poetry.org. I found some of the poems they show
> from famous poets. Some of them are in English old, like the King James
> Bible, but more cryptic. How do you begin to crack the code?<grin>
>
> Jim
>
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