[stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to anotherlevel-spellingisfirst, recognition of a pattern
Anita Ogletree
yrstrli at gmail.com
Sun Feb 10 01:39:37 UTC 2013
Donna, I like that. A little hug (smiles) Anita
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net
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>Date sent: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:44:12 -0500
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to
anotherlevel-spellingisfirst, recognition of a pattern
>I like the shape of the y, which as you know also means 'you. It
feels like
>a little hug.
>Donna
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Lynda Lambert
>Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
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>Subject: Re: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another
>level-spellingisfirst, recognition of a pattern
>I think this has been an interesting discussion and I am learning
so much
>through it. When I was learning Braille I was envisioning the
shapes that
>the dots form. I found that there were some shapes there that I
really
>enjoyed a lot and others I did not like at all. For some wild
reason I do
>not know, I was very partial to the "i" because of the upward
movement - it
>was dynamic to me. I felt like I could fly right off that page
every time I
>felt the "i." I know that is so crazy.
>Lynda
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>From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net
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>Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 3:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another level
>-spellingisfirst, recognition of a pattern
>> Robert,
>> First, it looks like there was something at the end of this
message
>> that got cut off.
>> The other thing I was thinking about was about whether a
totally,
>> congenitally blind person can visualize. I believe they can.
It may be
>> a matter of semantics, but there is also something which I think
is
>> called spacial awareness. It has to do with understanding, for
>> instance, shapes, how far away the table is or what it's
proportions
>> are and where a cup was placed. My understanding has always
been that
>> in general men are better at this than women -- or should I say
they
>> gravitate to it more readily and pick it up at an earlier age.
The
>> theory used to be that this was because men were the hunters and
women
>> the gatherers. The thing I was thinking about with regard to
blindness
>> is how this spacial awareness works with regard to both travel
and
>> reading. After all, those Braille dots are in patterns governed
by
>> specific proportions. A sighted person might look at a Braille
letter
>> and see a design or pattern, but when a blind person feels the
same
>> letter, they understand the same design, minus colors, perhaps,
but in
>> terms of distance and placement of the dots, shape and depth, it
>> amounts to the same thing. I think this is all related to the
visual
>> cortex, which has other uses than strictly visual in both blind
and
>> sighted people. It would be interesting to learn what life
without a
>> visual cortex would be like -- no, I'm not volunteering to have
mine
>> removed, thank you very much.
>> Donna
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert
>> Leslie Newman
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 1:13 PM
>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another level
>> -spelling isfirst, recognition of a pattern
>> Hi you all, good discussion going here:
>> My take on spelling, or in the larger sense the ability to
"read"
>> itself is not a question of vision, or touch or hearing --- but
is a
>> question that begins with the human ability to recognize and
decipher
>> patterns. And I'm starting at this super basic point, and from
that
>> we can plug in our questions of "is spelling and/or reading a
visual
>> or tactile or auditory reliant skill?" Or, "can someone who has
been
>> blind all their life 'visualize,' in order to do things?"
>> Well, I think we know that " people do learn to read and spell
using
>> vision (interpreting visual markings which consist of a known
>> alphabet). And we know that people also learn to read and spell
via
>> touch, by the use of Braille (another system of set patterns
>> consisting of raised dots that represent the same stuff the
visual
>> world is working with). Also, we all know that most anyone who
can
>> hear, is able to read via recordings.
>> Finally, we all know that some of us have a preferred mode of
>> learning, that tends to favor our dominant sensory modality like
-- A
>> person might say, "I am a visual learner." Or, "I learn best if
it is
>> hands-on?" Or, "Reading it in Braille is what makes it stick for
me."
>> Or, etc.
>> And so what is my point? Well --- that we humans are intelligent
and
>> adaptive. That we all have more than one sensory modality that
we can
>> use to read and know if a word is spelled correctly. Also that
we all
>> tend to favor one sensory modality over the others. And yes,
some of
>> us are "visual"
>> learners, where some are hands-on, and some are auditory.
>> Additionally, our proficiency with any of these sensory
modalities,
>> our ability to read and spell is greatly impacted by how we have
>> worked with and trained to use our chosen mode of operating with
that
>> favored sense. Bottom-line, any and all of these sensory
pathways will
>> work; hopefully as we go through life, we have the opportunity
to make
>> use of our favorite sensory modality for all the tasks we find
>> necessary to perform. And if we have to give up our favorite,
either
>> in part or in its entirety, then that we have the opportunity to
learn
>> how to make use of the next best pathway to reading and/or being
able
>> to continue on with our lives. (What is being said between the
line is
>> - one group does not have it over the others! Second, there is
much
>> ignorance and with the consequence, there is too much
discrimination
>> that happens with all this going on.)
>> (This past Saturday, I attended a meeting of the Nebraska
Commission
>> Board, and there was a testimony by a first year college student
who
>> started out reading braille in elementary school; in later
elementary
>> classes, got a new "Vision Teacher" and was switched to
magnifying
>> glasses that allowed her to read 20 words per minute [with much
eye
>> strain and headaches]; in high school she got a different
"Vision
>> Teacher" and was switched back to braille and now she reads at
485
>> words per minute.) And yea, then was , using
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