[stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

Mon Jul 1 16:50:27 UTC 2013

Zoom Text is also a screen reader.

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From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

> But magnification is an entirely different thing than a screenreader,
> and not everyone has the option to use a magnification tool. Many
> finding reading text tedious and difficult on the eyes and use both. As
> I've said before, I've never had a problem with Amazon and JAWS before,
> and JAWS works quite well for reading, writing and editing, working with
> and creating Excel docs, most online things, etc. Nothing is perfect all
> the time, and I don't have much experience with other screenreaders, but
> I rarely have problems with JAWS. If magnification worked for me,
> perhaps I would use it in tandem with JAWS, but I'm one of the many who
> this isn't an option for. Most websites nowadays work fine with
> screenreaders, so this isn't a typical problem, at least for me. My
> hubby does have useable vision, but he prefers to use JAWS and, for him,
> finds it more efficient than magnification. Between Braille, JAWS and a
> little magnification when necessary, he finished university and is fully
> employed. He also spends a lot of time on the computer, ha-ha! And the
> nerd loves to create Excel spreadsheets just for fun, LOL! He only uses
> JAWS when doing this.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
> Lambert
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 6:53 AM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>
>
> I am sure GLAD I chose to get ZoomText back when I was making that
> decision
> in the rehab program!
> Zoom Text works with everything I have ever tried to use it for - and it
>
> works perfectly with my PC.
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "P. Campbell" <pcampbell16 at verizon.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 7:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>
>
>> It doesn't work with Window-Eyes either.
>>
>> Phyllis
>>
>> but yet, it works just fine with a MAC - so that is what is a mystery
>> to
>> me.
>> Seems like it would be a PC problem - but I know next to nothing about
>
>> stuff
>> like this so cannot help at all.
>> Lynda
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <
>> bpollpeter at hotmail.com
>>>
>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <
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>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>> You can do this only if a graphic link exist. It would appear there's
>
>>> no link or graphic link, therefore JAWS won't work.
>>>
>>> If anyone else has tried doing this step Lynda posted with JAWS and
>>> knows something I'm not aware of, please enlighten us.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>
>>> Bramlett
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 7:55 PM
>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> FYI, for unlabeled graphic links, you can custom label it. Press
>>> insertcontrol tab to do this. But if the link doesn't appear with
>>> jaws, noting you can do.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:45 PM
>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>> It's obviously something JAWS isn't programmed to recognize. Since
>>> you need to click on the book cover, it's a picture, which JAWS
>>> doesn't recognize, and there's no corresponding link or graphic link
>>> that JAWS will recognize. Clearly the Apple voice-over has been
>>> programmed to recognize some kind of coding that JAWS doesn't. I'm
>>> not familiar with how the Apple voice-over works, but I think it may
>>> be more flexible, to an extent, than JAWS. One of our techy people
>>> may be able to better answer this.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Mary-Jo Lord
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:44 PM
>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>>
>>> It is something that Jaws isn't seeing or finding, that the Voiceover
>
>>> on the Mac is picking up.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>>> Lambert
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:03 PM
>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>> So, I am thinking that the accessibility problem is not amazon, but
>>> JAWS that does not allow you to access it on a PC, but does on a MAC?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mary-Jo Lord" <
>> mjfingerprints at comcast.net
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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Linda,
>>>>
>>>> I was unable to find this information with Jaws either, but my
>>>> sighted
>>>
>>>> son was. Then just to see what happens, I used the Mac, and was able
>
>>>> to follow your directions and find the information. I guess I'll be
>>>> doing my book browsing with Amazon on my Mac.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>
>>>> Lambert
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:00 AM
>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>>
>>>> ahhhhh, so that is the problem. How in the world have you ordered
>>>> books without being able to explore what is inside them? I hope JAWS
>
>>>> is accessable on amazon, and that someone on the list can help you
>>>> with it. My directions will work for anyone using Zoom Text - sorry
>>>> I cannot help with JAWS
>>> since
>>>
>>>> I
>>>> only use it for reading and writing word documents and for reading
>>>> emails.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <
>> bpollpeter at hotmail.com
>>>
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>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lynda,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, I'm pretty well aquainted with searching on Amazon. Part
>
>>>>> of the issue is that you're not using terms JAWS does. For
>>>>> instance, you say, "Near the search bar, designate your search for
>>>>> "books" on the list to the left of the bar." What this means is
>>>>> that there is a combo box you can select the category "Books" to
>>>>> find the anthology, and the edit field is where you type the name
>>>>> of the book. Your directions are based on how it's done visually
>>>>> and not with JAWS. The
>>>
>>>>> terminology is different with JAWS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, you can use the H key to navigate the search, and the
>>>>> first
>>>
>>>>> book that pops up is the current BOE anthology. You can press enter
>
>>>>> on this title to open up more details as well as to purchase the
>>>>> book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonetheless, it doesn't appear this accessible with JAWS. I've had
>>>>> my
>>>
>>>>> hubby double check too to make sure I'm not crazy. There's no link,
>
>>>>> button, check box, combo box-- nothing stating what you provide in
>>>>> your directions. If there was in deed a link titled such, when
>>>>> pulling up links list with the insert and F7 keys, it would appear,
>
>>>>> but it does not. Doing a control F to search for anything titled
>>>>> this
>>>
>>>>> doesn't bring anything up either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think part of the problem is that your directions are for anyone
>>>>> doing it visually, and it would appear it's not accessible with
>>>>> JAWS to access the options you list.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty good with using JAWS and my computer, but my hubby is
>>>>> not only extremely well-versed with the tool, he's taught JAWS and
>>>>> once had his certification in the program. So I'm confident he
>>>>> knows what he's talking about. We've both spent time looking the
>>>>> page up and down with no luck. And from what he can tell visually,
>>>>> there doesn't seem to be any links above the picture as you state.
>>>>> He's sees links for an advanced search, new releases and New York
>>>>> Times bestsellers but nothing you list.
>>>>>
>>>>> When using a mouse, there possibly could be inaccessible menus
>>>>> and/or
>>>
>>>>> dialogue boxes that open up, but JAWS finds nothing you have
>>>>> listed. And like I said, when pulling up the links list after
>>>>> finding the book, there's no links you say should be there.
>>>>>
>>>>> If any JAWS user has better luck, please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
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