[stylist] Page numbering

Fri Mar 7 20:10:59 UTC 2014

Hi,
After you pick a header and, for instance, you have written your book title, do this. I'm assuming that the cursor is in the document body.
Type ALT+V, followed by H to get back into the document header.

Then, if you hit ALT, you will hear that you are on the Design tab, which is what you want.

Next hit DownArrow. This causes you to land on Header. Hit RightArrow, and you land on Footer. RightArrow again, and you land on Page Number. At this point, hit ENTER. This menu lets you pick which part of the page: Top or Bottom. At this point, you have a bunch of choices. I don't know what they look like when you pick them.

Please let us know, once you pick one, which one it is and how it looks. It would sure be nice to have a little chart of the names and effects.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin williams
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Page numbering

Alt n h will take you to headers. Arrow done once to the header which has
all three then press enter.  Hit right arrow once, and it will take you to
the right part of the screen.  You could also use alt n h then just hit
enter and tab over to the right.  I'm not sure how a writer does this.
For the number part, after you are finished typing your text, use alt j,
then tab over until you hear number.  Hit inter.  Then you will have a list
of different numbers.  I always use the first one. I het inter.  After aI am
done, I hit escape.
to read your header, do alt n h e for edit.  Headers don't read well; hense
it is important to keep your rithum while you are using them.

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From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Applebutter
Hill
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 1:48 PM
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Atty,
Great question. The header & footer thing is the thing about all of this
that gives me the most fits. I use Word 2010 & Jaws 12, and I can't tell
when something works -- i.e., I theoretically insert a header and it doesn't
show up in the document in a way that Jaws can read.

Last year when I was formatting my novel, I called FS and a guy told me that
I should download the latest version of Jaws, which works better for using
some of the more advanced options in Word. I did, and used it in demo mode,
which I think gives you 40 minutes. The Styles options worked much better,
but I burned out on the headers and footers. .

 If it's any comfort, back in the days of Word 2003, I was trying this and
the headers would end up stuck between text in a random fashion. A sighted
writer friend of mine told me that she put them in manually, after she was
sure she was done editing -- is anyone ever sure their done editing?

That said, using Office 2010 with Jaws 12 and the virtual ribbons enabled,
on the Insert tab the options for Headers are under Header & Footer submenu,
which is opened with right arrow. You enter on Header button drop down, and
there are a lot of predefined choices, after the first 2, which are blank
with one column and blank with 3 columns. If you enter on one, it opens an
edit field. If you up arrowinstead of down arrowing, you find choices to add
remove or edit header.

One of my biggest problems is that I can't tell if I've actually done the
right thing to select one.  It seems like I have to close the edit field,
which closes the document. Also, there's a temptation on my part in dialogs
to use tab, but there are a lot of places in this area where you are either
unable to do it because you're in an edit field, or in the lists, you get
the same thing when tabbing as when using up or down arrow. When I re open a
document after selecting a header, I can only tell if anything was done by
using the option to root Jaws cursor to PC cursor, and then, all I can tell
is that the text I used for the title is there somewhere.  I can never tell
about page numbers;

Also, many of the choices are separated into odd and even numbered pages,
for use in book layout format. In my novel, the headers on odd and
even-numbered pages are different. I think the title is on the left or
even-numbered page and the author on the right or odd-numbered page.
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Atty Rose
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 12:02 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: [stylist] Page numbering

Hi folks,

I have managed the whole paragraph spacing thing without tabs. Now, I am
trying to work out how to put the story name and the page number in the
right corner of each page.

I have been trying to do the header thing. Insert header, but after that
things get a little iffy. If it was just the page number, that would be
cool, but I need to have the name of the story in the right-hand corner
also.

I am using 2007 and Jaws 11.

I am not sure they even need it if they will be reading it on their
computers, but if they print it out they will. They say follow the regular
guidlines, so I am trying.

Any help would be great,
Atty

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