[stylist] Page numbering

Bridgit Pollpeter bpollpeter at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 8 00:18:19 UTC 2014


I spent four years having to use headers and footers, and while JAWS
doesn't always assist much with these options, as long as you follow the
steps, it should work. I never had an issue with headers, footers and
page numbers doing silly things. And if you aren't sure, just re-do it.
Also, once in the field to add in your name or title next to page
numbers, JAWS will read what you have. So if in doubt, just go into the
header/footer and JAWS will read what is there.

Bridgit

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From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Applebutter Hill
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 12:48 PM
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Atty,
Great question. The header & footer thing is the thing about all of this
that gives me the most fits. I use Word 2010 & Jaws 12, and I can't tell
when something works -- i.e., I theoretically insert a header and it
doesn't show up in the document in a way that Jaws can read.

Last year when I was formatting my novel, I called FS and a guy told me
that I should download the latest version of Jaws, which works better
for using some of the more advanced options in Word. I did, and used it
in demo mode, which I think gives you 40 minutes. The Styles options
worked much better, but I burned out on the headers and footers. .

 If it's any comfort, back in the days of Word 2003, I was trying this
and the headers would end up stuck between text in a random fashion. A
sighted writer friend of mine told me that she put them in manually,
after she was sure she was done editing -- is anyone ever sure their
done editing?

That said, using Office 2010 with Jaws 12 and the virtual ribbons
enabled, on the Insert tab the options for Headers are under Header &
Footer submenu, which is opened with right arrow. You enter on Header
button drop down, and there are a lot of predefined choices, after the
first 2, which are blank with one column and blank with 3 columns. If
you enter on one, it opens an edit field. If you up arrowinstead of down
arrowing, you find choices to add remove or edit header.

One of my biggest problems is that I can't tell if I've actually done
the right thing to select one.  It seems like I have to close the edit
field, which closes the document. Also, there's a temptation on my part
in dialogs to use tab, but there are a lot of places in this area where
you are either unable to do it because you're in an edit field, or in
the lists, you get the same thing when tabbing as when using up or down
arrow. When I re open a document after selecting a header, I can only
tell if anything was done by using the option to root Jaws cursor to PC
cursor, and then, all I can tell is that the text I used for the title
is there somewhere.  I can never tell about page numbers;

Also, many of the choices are separated into odd and even numbered
pages, for use in book layout format. In my novel, the headers on odd
and even-numbered pages are different. I think the title is on the left
or even-numbered page and the author on the right or odd-numbered page.
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Atty Rose
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 12:02 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: [stylist] Page numbering

Hi folks,

I have managed the whole paragraph spacing thing without tabs. Now, I am
trying to work out how to put the story name and the page number in the
right corner of each page.

I have been trying to do the header thing. Insert header, but after that
things get a little iffy. If it was just the page number, that would be
cool, but I need to have the name of the story in the right-hand corner
also.

I am using 2007 and Jaws 11.

I am not sure they even need it if they will be reading it on their
computers, but if they print it out they will. They say follow the
regular guidlines, so I am trying.

Any help would be great,
Atty

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