[stylist] lgbt and NFB

Miss Thea thearamsay at rogers.com
Fri Mar 14 01:30:57 UTC 2014 

It is, when used by a homophobic person cursing gays and lesbians.
It isn't when gays take the word and make it their own.
Thea

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tyler
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:31 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB

Some of the things about the LGBT scene confuse me. For example, I heard 
LGBT bands are choruses
singing songs with the word "queer" in them. Isn't that a homophobic curse 
words used by the
completely-intollerant straight people?
Tyler Z
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:27:42 -0500, Atty Rose wrote:


>Well said and I'd like to read it. I belong to a GBLTA, A meaning allies,
>chorus in our city. Gay and straight, trans and bi folks all singing
>together! It jams...
>For our show in June one of the songs we are singing it Testimony. If you
>youtube the San Fransisco all mens quire with the song testimony you can
>hear them do it. Part of it is actually things that distraught suicidal
>GBLTQ people have written. It is an incredible song.
>
>Atty
>
>
>
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>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB
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>>
>>
>>Hey,
>>
>>I didn't know that there was even a secret meeting of LGBTQ folks. I
>>wish I had known about it. To me, Some of the NFB folks do seems very
>>conservative. For me, I am currently writing a play about a bisexual,
>>transgender male and the struggles he faces where he lives. For me,
>>there is not enough discussion around bisexual and transgender issues. I
>>have many friends that are LGBTQ+ and from my experience, they did not
>>choose to be the way that they are. The play that I am writing is for
>>them. I know several LGBTQ+ people who also have a disability, and for
>>them, it can be a bit isolating because much of the disabled world and
>>much of the LGBTQ+ world don't accept them. Some of my recent writings
>>have been dedicated to them. When I get further along in the play, I can
>>send it out to this list for everyone to read. Is this okay with
>>everyone else?
>>
>>Katie
>>
>>On 13.03.2014 12:38, Atty Rose wrote:
>>
>>>People can't still really believe that, can they?
>>>
>>>Atty shakes her head and wanders off.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Tyler" <programmer651 at comcast.net>
>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:06 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB
>>>I always thought the NFB was kind of conservative. To them it's like
>>>this; "Blindness is not a choice; people are born with it. Gender and
>>>skin color is not a choice. Sexuality is." That's what the NFB talking
>>>equal rights sounds like. Tyler Z On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:28:28 -0500,
>>>Atty Rose wrote: And you won't. We weren't even allowed to announce where
>>>our unofficial group was meeting at the convension. We weren't allowed to
>>>have a email list either and still aren't. For a group that talks about
>>>equal rights they are blind to what that actually means. Atty -----
>>>Original Message ----- From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com> To:
>>>"Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thursday,
>>>March 13, 2014 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [stylist] gay protag You know, I
>>>half-thought I'd run into an LGBT division of the NFB, but never did.
>>>Thea -----Original Message----- From: Applebutter Hill Sent: Wednesday,
>>>March 12, 2014 5:27 PM To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List' Subject: R
>>e:
>>[stylist] gay protag This reminds me of a workshop I attended years ago
>>with an agent named Joan Timberlake, who supports LGBT authors. I wrote a
>>piece about it and submitted it to Slate & Style, but I don't think it was
>>ever published. It's been so long that I have no idea what she's up to
>>now, but I liked her. Donna -----Original Message----- From: stylist
>>[mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Atty Rose Sent:
>>Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:32 AM To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>Subject: [stylist] gay protag Hi there, Some agents might be very in to it
>>and there are also GBLT friendly publishers also. Don't give up on it just
>>cause he or she is gay! Timing is everything. There is a huge movement
>>around same sex couples getting rights, and though there are still people
>>who discriminate our society is evolving to higher thinking all the time.
>>There is a nitch for it and if you search out some of the publishers that
>>accept lesbian and gay lit, some of them don't even
>>require
>>agents. Write on, Atty ----- Original Message ----- From: "William L
>>Houts" <lukaeon at gmail.com> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List"
>><stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re:
>>[stylist] Introduction HI Thea, No, the first novel is a bit of a train
>>wreck, and has a gay protag anyway, so I couldn't get agents interested in
>>it. I think the novel I'm working on now has a lot more going for it so
>>I'm focusing on that for the moment. I read your post about the scam
>>you've lived through and enjoyed it, if that's the right word. It made me
>>so angry, the way most human beings are trusting and trustworthy while
>>some few are manipulative vampires. Your piece is so rich with the sense
>>of human warmth, as with the people in the restaurant, contrasted with the
>>scamsters. I look forward to more of your writing. --Bill On 3/11/2014
>>8:37 AM, Miss Thea wrote: Mister Bill, I'm a new kid, too. Name's Thea,
>>live in Ontario. Did you get your first novel published? I
>>don't
>>know if writing if better than the things you mentioned, but it comes
>>pretty close. It's like theater. First, things look like they're never
>>going to come through, then after so many re-writes you want to scream,
>>the magic happens. It's like chocolate ice cream you have to make
>>yourself, and wild sex between two old married people. It can happen; it
>>just needs help. LOL Thea -----Original Message----- From: William L Houts
>>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:24 PM To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>Subject: [stylist] Introduction Hi Stylists, Just joined the group and it
>>looks very promising; I'm looking forward to interesting chats with
>>y'alls. I write poetry and fiction, and am currently about midway through
>>my second (as yet unpublished) novel, which I label as literary fantasy. I
>>can easily say without feeling silly that writing, at least on that
>>incredible sleigh ride we sometimes experience where word meets rhythm
>>meets metaphor and you feel like your mind is made of lightn
>>ing and
>>rainis my favorite thing in the world: better than chocolate ice cream,
>>better than hot raunchy sex, better than anything. IN the meantime,
>>though, I'm looking forward to some smart sassy talk with some smart sassy
>>new friends. Cheers, everybody. --Bill
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