[stylist] lgbt and NFB

Bridgit Pollpeter bpollpeter at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 14 04:41:09 UTC 2014


But none of this has anything to do with blindness, or not directly.
Lots of people struggle with these issues, so why not participate in
groups and organizations already established to deal with some of the
things you list? Why do we need blind-specific groups for some of this?
And why would the NFB or any other group like the Federation need
establish such groups?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss Thea
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:20 PM
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Hi, Katie.
Kudoes for all you're doing.
I brought up the whole LGBT division idea because as you already
recognized 
it, there is ableism in that community, too.
I'm sorry to the person who thinks this is garbage, but there are some
parts 
of the blind community that are not being served.
Whether it's LGBT or the mainstream Christian church, ableism is just as

strong as it's ever been, despite the technological advances. The world
sadly still needs educating. When I joined a blind lesbian group and the
first message I heard was "It's 
the same here as in the general public", I knew she was right. My
article "I'll Call Her Sandy" states that, according to the FBI's page
on 
romance scams, disabled people are one of the targets.
Finding a life partner no matter your orientation is one of the most 
important goals for most people. The fact we lack eyes, or at least some
of 
us do, changes that not one whit.
I think there should be a division dealing with education, helping
people 
who find themselves alone or being taken advantage of time after time,
and 
if I weren't dealing with so much other stuff besides being blind, I'd 
create one myself.
In lieu of that, I write and place it on a blog.
Thea

-----Original Message----- 
From: kec92 at ourlink.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:44 PM
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Hi all,

the term "queer" is a word that is trying to be reclaimed by the LGBTQ+
community. It also comes down to the person and how comfortable with the
word queer. I have noticed that many people in the younger generations
(30 years and younger) seem to be a little more accepting of the word
queer. Yes, queer can be a derogatory term, but that does not mean that
some people might like the term because their gender identity and/or
sexuality is fluid, and LG or B do not quite fit how they feel
themselves to be.

I word a lot with LGBTQ+ people at my university and surrounding
community I also work with disabled queer folks from Ogden, Utah to
Lehi, Utah. I volunteer at my campus's LGBT Resource Centre and help run
a 501C3 charitable group to help LGBTQ+ identified persons in school and
in the community and support their allies. Sometimes, I even volunteer
at the Utah Pride Centre. I personally identify within the LGBTQ+
community and try to help further their cause and promote the
eradication of ableism in the LGBTQ+ community.

Katie

On 13.03.2014 14:09, Atty Rose wrote:

> Atty laughs! Well said Chris.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Kuell" <ckuell at comcast.net>
> To: "Tyler" <programmer651 at comcast.net>; "Writer's Division Mailing
List"
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB
> I disagree completely. Skin color is absolutely a choice. When I don't

> wear sun block, drink a six pack and pass out on the beach all day, my

> skin turns a completely different (and painful) color. And that's my 
> choice. Sorry--just trying to lighten things up. Tyler, you raise an 
> interesting point that I can't explain, but I know is true. As long as
you 
> are in the minority, it's okay to use derogatory language. If you
aren't 
> in the minority, it's hate speech. The ugly word 'nigger' comes to
mind. 
> Some African Americans toss it around like I say "the". But if
caucasian 
> me were to use it, I'm a hate mongerer. I've heard many LGBT people
use 
> queer the same way. I don't know how they would react if I were to use
it, 
> but since I don't want to offend anyone, I won't. In my editing, I ran

> across a woman who had CP using the word 'crip' in her essay, and I
was 
> appalled. But she said it was common among people with disabilities, 
> especially those in wheelchairs, to use crip to describ
e
themselves or others. Again, I'l stik to less inflammatory words,
although I 
have many friends who are black, gay, and/or disabled. chris, also known
as 
whitey, straight guy, and reasonably physically fit. ----- Original 
Message ----- From: "Tyler" <programmer651 at comcast.net> To: "Writer's 
Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thursday, March 13,
2014 
3:31 PM Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB Some of the things about the

LGBT scene confuse me. For example, I heard LGBT bands are choruses
singing 
songs with the word "queer" in them. Isn't that a homophobic curse words

used by the completely-intollerant straight people? Tyler Z 
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