[stylist] lgbt and NFB

Miss Thea thearamsay at rogers.com
Fri Mar 14 01:37:52 UTC 2014 

Katie, I'd sure like to read your play.
I also belong to a Christian LGBT list and there's much isolation for such 
people from the congregations of the churches they love and want to serve 
in.
Add disability, and you've got a witch's brew of isolation, and maybe even 
self-hate.
That's why I think the NFB or AFB or someone might come up with a division 
or society or whatever so that such people can congregate and discuss the 
issues of being so different: blind, gay and Christian, for instance.
Can you imagine a more isolating situation than that?
Maybe your faith conflicts with your orientation, and to add to that, you 
have a disability or two, and neither gays nor Christians will have much to 
do with you.
I'm only using Christian as one example. There are probably dozens more.
I mean, bisexual, transgendered. That's quite a combo to have to deal with, 
whether the person has a disability or not.
Kudoes, Katie, and I'd like to read your play.
Thea

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Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB



Hey,

I didn't know that there was even a secret meeting of LGBTQ folks. I
wish I had known about it. To me, Some of the NFB folks do seems very
conservative. For me, I am currently writing a play about a bisexual,
transgender male and the struggles he faces where he lives. For me,
there is not enough discussion around bisexual and transgender issues. I
have many friends that are LGBTQ+ and from my experience, they did not
choose to be the way that they are. The play that I am writing is for
them. I know several LGBTQ+ people who also have a disability, and for
them, it can be a bit isolating because much of the disabled world and
much of the LGBTQ+ world don't accept them. Some of my recent writings
have been dedicated to them. When I get further along in the play, I can
send it out to this list for everyone to read. Is this okay with
everyone else?

Katie

On 13.03.2014 12:38, Atty Rose wrote:

> People can't still really believe that, can they?
>
> Atty shakes her head and wanders off.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler" <programmer651 at comcast.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB
> I always thought the NFB was kind of conservative. To them it's like this; 
> "Blindness is not a choice; people are born with it. Gender and skin color 
> is not a choice. Sexuality is." That's what the NFB talking equal rights 
> sounds like. Tyler Z On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:28:28 -0500, Atty Rose wrote: 
> And you won't. We weren't even allowed to announce where our unofficial 
> group was meeting at the convension. We weren't allowed to have a email 
> list either and still aren't. For a group that talks about equal rights 
> they are blind to what that actually means. Atty ----- Original 
> Message ----- From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com> To: "Writer's 
> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 
> 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [stylist] gay protag You know, I half-thought I'd run 
> into an LGBT division of the NFB, but never did. Thea -----Original 
> Message----- From: Applebutter Hill Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:27 
> PM To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List' Subject: R
e:
[stylist] gay protag This reminds me of a workshop I attended years ago with 
an agent named Joan Timberlake, who supports LGBT authors. I wrote a piece 
about it and submitted it to Slate & Style, but I don't think it was ever 
published. It's been so long that I have no idea what she's up to now, but I 
liked her. Donna -----Original Message----- From: stylist 
[mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Atty Rose Sent: Wednesday, 
March 12, 2014 11:32 AM To: Writer's Division Mailing List Subject: 
[stylist] gay protag Hi there, Some agents might be very in to it and there 
are also GBLT friendly publishers also. Don't give up on it just cause he or 
she is gay! Timing is everything. There is a huge movement around same sex 
couples getting rights, and though there are still people who discriminate 
our society is evolving to higher thinking all the time. There is a nitch 
for it and if you search out some of the publishers that accept lesbian and 
gay lit, some of them don't even
  require
agents. Write on, Atty ----- Original Message ----- From: "William L Houts" 
<lukaeon at gmail.com> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" 
<stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: 
[stylist] Introduction HI Thea, No, the first novel is a bit of a train 
wreck, and has a gay protag anyway, so I couldn't get agents interested in 
it. I think the novel I'm working on now has a lot more going for it so I'm 
focusing on that for the moment. I read your post about the scam you've 
lived through and enjoyed it, if that's the right word. It made me so angry, 
the way most human beings are trusting and trustworthy while some few are 
manipulative vampires. Your piece is so rich with the sense of human warmth, 
as with the people in the restaurant, contrasted with the scamsters. I look 
forward to more of your writing. --Bill On 3/11/2014 8:37 AM, Miss Thea 
wrote: Mister Bill, I'm a new kid, too. Name's Thea, live in Ontario. Did 
you get your first novel published? I
don't
know if writing if better than the things you mentioned, but it comes pretty 
close. It's like theater. First, things look like they're never going to 
come through, then after so many re-writes you want to scream, the magic 
happens. It's like chocolate ice cream you have to make yourself, and wild 
sex between two old married people. It can happen; it just needs help. LOL 
Thea -----Original Message----- From: William L Houts Sent: Monday, March 
10, 2014 12:24 PM To: Writer's Division Mailing List Subject: [stylist] 
Introduction Hi Stylists, Just joined the group and it looks very promising; 
I'm looking forward to interesting chats with y'alls. I write poetry and 
fiction, and am currently about midway through my second (as yet 
unpublished) novel, which I label as literary fantasy. I can easily say 
without feeling silly that writing, at least on that incredible sleigh ride 
we sometimes experience where word meets rhythm meets metaphor and you feel 
like your mind is made of lightn
ing and
rainis my favorite thing in the world: better than chocolate ice cream, 
better than hot raunchy sex, better than anything. IN the meantime, though, 
I'm looking forward to some smart sassy talk with some smart sassy new 
friends. Cheers, everybody. --Bill 
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