[stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED

> Angry andand hateful people will always be among us, no matter if the 
> whole world stood up against them.  Drawing attention to yourself just 
> draws them in.  No laws will ever change hearts.  People are just mean.
> Barbara
>
>
>
>
> Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.--Robert Frost
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Atty Rose
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:35 AM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>
> People can wear proud to be a twin, proud to be short, proud to be 
> anything
> they want, though you won't get dragged in the street, beaten to deth or
> discriminated against for being a twin or short. I think Thea said it 
> well,
> GBLTA people have to speak up and stand together. If they don't stand
> together they might not be able to leagve their homes even with their 
> white
> canes. Oh, wait, wrong group... But same idea.
>
> Atty
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>
>
>> Thank you for saying this, Brigit.  I, too, do not understand why it's 
>> okay to wear the "proud to be gay" when it's not okay for "proud to be a 
>> heterosexual".
>> Barbara
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.--Robert 
>> Frost
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:51 PM
>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>>
>> And perhaps this is an ignorant heterosexual talking, but the way I see
>> it is that no one expects straight people to constantly identify our
>> sexual orientation, so why gays and bi's and transgender? I think a part
>> of equality and inclusion means accepting people as whole beings
>> regardless of sexual orientation. Identifying or being identified by
>> sexual orientation is the same as being identified by disability or hair
>> color or music interest etc. It's just one part of a person.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William L
>> Houts
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:38 PM
>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> HI Katie,
>>
>> I cheerfully identify as gay, though my reality is a little more
>> complicated.  For various reasons, I no longer go to bars or participate
>>
>> in gay culture in that way.  It's all fine, clubs, bars, parades, the
>> whole thing.  But to my friends and family, I feel myself to be
>> "postgay", which is how I identify myself on the rare occasions the
>> subject comes up.  Postgay isn't nearly the same thing as "ex-gay",
>> which is false and noxious.  Postgay, as I understand the word, means
>> that yes, yes, I love men, and in general take a relaxed view of
>> sexuality.  I'm just not very interested in making a big issue of it.  I
>>
>> love all of our gay heroes, our Oscar Wilde, our Harvey Milk, our name
>> your poison. But I don't go out of my way to make gay jokes, to frequent
>>
>> gay owned establishments, or to attend gay-themed parties. You're
>> welcome to go, and I'll be glad to hear about it when you come home.  As
>>
>> for me, well, I'm working on a sestina tonight.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/2014 9:22 PM, kec92 at ourlink.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am still writing the play about the bisexual transgender male. I
>>> would just like to update on some of the issues that I have read about
>>
>>> and talking to lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and
>>> Questioning
>>> (LGBTQQ) peoples. One of the issues that I have read about is that
>> many
>>> of the characters that are seen on movies that are acting as LGBTQQ
>> are
>>> mostly heteorsexual and cisgender (people whose gender idenity and
>>> assigned sex match), play LGBTQQ characters. There has been some
>>> controversy in the LGBTQQ community where they want people who
>> actually
>>> identify as LGBTQQ.
>>>
>>> Another issue that I would like to bring up is the inclusion of people
>>
>>> with disabilities who also identify as LGBTQQ wanting inclusion as
>>> well. Even within the LGBTQQ community, there is still discrimination
>>> and bias.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Katie
>>>
>>> On 24.03.2014 20:23, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jackie,
>>>>
>>>> The movie is Tu Wong Fu: To Julie Newmar, with Love, starring Patrick
>>
>>>> Swayze, and yes, it was a funny but heart-felt movie. It was made in
>>>> the mid-90's.
>>>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jackie
>>
>>>> Williams
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:42 PM
>>>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>>>>
>>>> I AM STILL REVISITING ALL THE E-MAILS I MISSED. Well, I enclosed my
>>>> few about spiders. I have had a hard time remembering the meanings of
>>
>>>> all these letters, but I have one or two poems that might nibble on
>>>> the edges. I have known many gay men, some fellow teachers, two of
>>>> whom adopted. Quite amazing for Arizona. Better parents I never knew.
>>
>>>> I also found that my Great Aunt Dora, a heroine of mine throughout my
>>
>>>> life, left a letter when she died asking that her headstone be placed
>>
>>>> next to another woman's headstone, and a tender letter was enclosed.
>>>> A very attractive woman, she refused offers of marriage, and became
>>>> the Librarian at Upper Iowa University. When she retired after fifty
>>>> years, an old beau asked her again, and she again refused. Years
>>>> after this mystery, an answer. Then, some years ago, I saw a movie
>>>> with a Chinese title about a drag queen. It starred the dancer who
>>>> also starred in ghost, and it was hilarious. I also visited a friend
>>>> in San Francisco, and went first to a place to eat and see the belly
>>>> dancers. Then we went next door and saw endless men in drag. I had to
>>
>>>> write about a man with a mother that could be me, and his wife and
>>>> child who could be my daughter-in-law. Other than my imagination, I
>>>> don't have a lot of knowledge, except my scientific-based beliefs,
>>>> that is most developments take place in the womb, and sometimes are
>>>> highly influenced also by environments that cannot help but magnify
>>>> or turn the tide to an already genetic pattern. Now that I think of
>>>> it, I have three poems that touch in some way on one or another of
>>>> these "letters." I suggest that you read this first line by line, and
>>
>>>> spell out the few words that are not phonetic, then read it a second
>>>> time with insert, down arrow. It is long, 73 lines. I submitted it to
>>
>>>> Georgia for several years, since I understood it to be the drag queen
>>
>>>> capitol of the U.S., but it must have offended someone to claim it as
>>
>>>> part of their history. It is a marathon of rhyming, and if you do not
>>
>>>> hear it, the format has not remained true. Category 4 Jacqueline
>>>> Williams Expressing Beliefs In All Ways 1431 W.
>>>> 7th Place
>>>>
>>>> Mesa, AZ 85201
>>>>
>>>> 480-834-1782
>>>>
>>>> The Evolution of a Drag Queen
>>>>
>>>> "My Mother, nothing comes to mind
>>>> to extricate me from my bind."
>>>> Athletic honors, throwing shot
>>>> and javelin were surely not
>>>> the skills that now will make up for
>>>> a youth I wasted. I foreswore
>>>> the effort facing learning times,
>>>> realities and saving dimes.
>>>> All those awards led me astray
>>>> until too late, though I must say
>>>> the medals for my breaststroke swims
>>>> left me big "pecs" and long strong limbs.
>>>> I had a decent resume
>>>> before I lost my job. Foul play
>>>> robbed goals set by my love and me
>>>> for newborn son, cast them asea.
>>>>
>>>> "My son, I'll think about it soon."
>>>> So often, Mom, I've heard this tune.
>>>> You'll wear your gowns and gaudy rings
>>>> to hifalutin social things.
>>>> Oh, wait, my quite majestic mom,
>>>> so tall, so buxom, such aplomb.
>>>> Ideas brew-a rushing tide.
>>>> I'll find a conquest for my bride.
>>>>
>>>> You gone, your spikes upon my feet,
>>>> I walk and fall and still repeat
>>>> a practice that becomes my code,
>>>> a perfect imagery, the mode.
>>>> I've got the walk, now what to do
>>>> to make the perfect witch's brew
>>>> that causes me to light the flame?
>>>> Please bring me soon to newborn fame.
>>>>
>>>> My wife's peach-pink scant underpants
>>>> inspire an undulating dance.
>>>> While she, adored, earns great big bucks,
>>>> I hold the bottle my son sucks.
>>>> As "Mister Mom," I take him here
>>>> and there and now it's everywhere.
>>>> The beauty parlor-such a place!
>>>> He always grins his funny face.
>>>> We hang out as a winsome pair.
>>>> The ladies think us both quite fair.
>>>> As one beautician holds him tight,
>>>> another makes my eyes shine bright.
>>>> Eye shadow, glitter, wigs all glow.
>>>> My heart beats fast. My wife will know
>>>> the depth of love I feel for her.
>>>> Oh, dear, my makeup must not blur.
>>>> I slowly roll my thigh-highs up-
>>>> the jet-black net-oh, quite corrupt.
>>>>
>>>> My mom and wife will meet for dinner.
>>>> I pray that they will see a winner.
>>>> Mother, son and dearest one
>>>> arrive all laughing, full of fun-
>>>> awash in new-felt wonderments
>>>> at rainbow fans on fundaments.
>>>> They do not know I'm here, you see,
>>>> cast eyes at entrance doors. Oh me.
>>>>
>>>> The drum roll comes and I sashay
>>>> the runway, not one hair astray.
>>>> Bestowing smiles on all alike-
>>>> arched eyebrows, winks, I pass my tyke
>>>> with arms outstretched and then he knows
>>>> his "Mommy" right down to my toes.
>>>>
>>>> And now when all is said and done,
>>>> with kudos to my lovely one,
>>>> she must compete with all those droves
>>>> who bring me gifts and treasure troves
>>>> of drag queens-past and present tense.
>>>> I hope that I'll maintain the sense
>>>> to build a future-one to see-
>>>> that's free of fear and bigotry.
>>>>
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>>           --Jane Siberry
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